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#61259 - 10/27/09 02:57 PM Re: Soccer as a Vehicle for Learning Life Lessons [Re: paul12]
aclifton Offline
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Registered: 05/30/08
Posts: 330
Loc: Kansas City
Paul,

Watch the videos. I'd be shocked if your kids are as skilled dribbling as these kids. Though I'm sure your team will pass the ball better.

These kids have spent 95% of there time in training working on dribbling since age 5-8 (depending on when that particular player started with the Legends). Your kids haven't spent as much time dribbling, so logically, I'd be shocked if they dribbled as well.

Don't get upset.

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Andrew

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#61260 - 10/27/09 02:58 PM Re: Soccer as a Vehicle for Learning Life Lessons [Re: paul12]
hitman Offline
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Registered: 06/20/08
Posts: 29
I must say my kid has spent the last two seasons playing with the Legends and it has been two of the most frustrating and dissapointing seasons for my child. I say this having seen my child play since the age of four for mulitiple coaches thru club ball, camps, ODP, individual lessons,etc. From my experience something can be learned from each person, and no one way is the right way. I thought Tim Richardson was the best coach my child has worked with. I am not going to be arrogant enough to say he is the best in KC and if you don't agree, you are just not enlightened enough. I think there are things the Legends do well and some things they do not. Again, that is any club in KC. I do think that the intolerable arrogance that comes from the club's leadership on this forum is what turns people off. If the legends are lucky enough to keep a kid from age 4 to 18, their way could possibly work.
The problem is when you are trying to build a team at a older age group, they fall way short. Andy's rants make it difficult to attract top players, because most rational people aren't buying what he's selling.

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#61263 - 10/27/09 03:24 PM Re: Soccer as a Vehicle for Learning Life Lessons [Re: hitman]
Keep It Fun Offline
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Registered: 06/25/05
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Loc: Kansas City, MO
Originally Posted By: hitman
..... most rational people aren't.....

You mean there are some rational people that are?
crazy
Seeing how we're talking about that portion of the population that makes up typical soccer parents, are there any within that group at all?
I guess it's all relative.

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#61264 - 10/27/09 03:28 PM Re: Soccer as a Vehicle for Learning Life Lessons [Re: Keep It Fun]
hitman Offline
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Track & Field is starting to look real good right now.

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#61266 - 10/27/09 03:34 PM Re: Soccer as a Vehicle for Learning Life Lessons [Re: hitman]
Keep It Fun Offline
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Registered: 06/25/05
Posts: 2404
Loc: Kansas City, MO
Hard to see the rationale in sitting around for hours waiting for your turn to run around in circles until you're about to hurl just for the sake of it.

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#61270 - 10/27/09 03:42 PM Re: Soccer as a Vehicle for Learning Life Lessons [Re: Keep It Fun]
hitman Offline
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Registered: 06/20/08
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Either you're fast or you're slow. There's no deceptive, creative speed, either you have it or you don't.

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#61274 - 10/27/09 04:35 PM Re: Soccer as a Vehicle for Learning Life Lessons [Re: hitman]
paul12 Offline
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Registered: 02/10/09
Posts: 2810
Loc: Northern Virginia
Okay, got home and watched the videos. They're good ball handlers, but not that good. Is this what all the fuss is about? I've got kids who can do every move I saw in those videos - not all of my players, but some. They just don't do them all the time.

And its so freakin' boring to watch. Sure, I can appreciate the skills, but it makes the game soooooooooo slow.

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#61275 - 10/27/09 04:39 PM Re: Soccer as a Vehicle for Learning Life Lessons [Re: paul12]
paul12 Offline
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Registered: 02/10/09
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Loc: Northern Virginia
Though I will give you kudos for one thing. The players off the ball are reacting better than I would have guessed.

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#61290 - 10/27/09 08:57 PM Re: Soccer as a Vehicle for Learning Life Lessons [Re: paul12]
Kaka Offline
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Registered: 02/21/07
Posts: 2316
The Legends style can be very self indulgent in certain games. I get to see them every once in a awhile. Some of the teams look pretty good. They fill good spaces off the ball and they move for each other. Other games are not so great.

I can rattle off 5 teams in the KC area that do the same things and have a good style, but they also do some planned winning. And I don't see any kids left behind in those programs.

I still don't see how you can ratchet up the "game" pressure if you don't do some winning and progress through the soccer system. Believe me, I think the soccer system is screwed up, but you still have to move your kids through it.

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#61298 - 10/27/09 10:30 PM Re: Soccer as a Vehicle for Learning Life Lessons [Re: hitman]
Kaka Offline
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Registered: 02/21/07
Posts: 2316
Larry Holmes has the best quote on that one...."hard work is not easy, but it's fair".

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