Hey Andy,

Why do you work so hard to be the most unpopular coach in KC?

Duane

hitman

I can't stand by while you create a false public perception of the Legends club and the great coaces who have coached, or are currently coaching, your daughter.



Your child has trained with over ten coaches over the last ten years. Isn't this a little strange for a 13 year old? She has played for our club with two of the very best coaches I have ever had the pleasure to work with i.e Tom Mura and Jamie Leeper.

There aren't two better coaches in KC for children 8-13 years of age than Tom & Jamie.

Does your daughter use the deceptive dribbling & shooting skills we taught her? Be careful when crafting your response because she used them under pressure in my last DVD and, from what I'm told by an incredibly trustworthy source, also uses them in games.

Needless to say we disagree to an immense degree. If any of my players does their best it does not matter to me whether their team wins or loses.

To judge a child by any other standard other than doing ones best is a horrible parenting and teaching error.



I do not criticize other coaches or clubs. I have purposely avoided all references to other coaches and clubs because any positive change has to come from good parents who want their children to be treated fairly in a way that will maximize their potential.

It is true that I believe our philosophy to be different and better than anything I have yet seen for children. It has taken me nearly 50 years in the game to develop and refine these methods so that the potential of all players can be maximized. The readers of this forum are intelligent enough to check out the evidence of this claim. Anyone who wants to understand the mechanics and theory of what we do can either go to www.kclegends.com or get a copy of my book by emailing me at andy@kclegendssoccer.com (or both).

After reading the book and seeing the factual record of individual and club success it is impossible to argue that more traditional methods of coaching are more fun, fairer and better for developing individual skills than what we do. Given the chance to work with a group of players long enough we also develop great teams. This vey logical because a great team game can only be played by players with great skill. Without great skill tactical options are limited.

More importantly a great life can only be lived if a child's creative character is challenged and improved to the greatest degree.

This is and always will be the greatest value of the Legends philosophy.

My personal opinion is that your attitude is very damaging to the fragile self-concept of young people. Unfortunately I have most often found that it is the very person who needs the Legends message the most who has the greatest resistance to change. It is usually this individual that cannot recognize the incredible benefits of bringing up a child who gives 100% per cent effor and has no fear, guilt, shame or blame. What we do makes children brave creative and willing to lead. In our program kids are developed in an atmosphere that's free of fear. They are encouraged to take the bravest and most creative risks

Soccer is only the vehicle for making the most out of every child!

Andy.

PS: I suggest you take a long hard look at yourself, your background, your biases & your attitude with regard to winning. Then take the action steps needed to make the positive changes that will benefit your daughter and her teammates.

Duane,

I'm popular with kids I've coached and their parents.

My family loves me.

If I'm unpopular with other people it's because we differ in opinion and they don't know how loyal, hard working & committed to their child's development I am.

Not much I can do about that! All I can do is continue working my fingers to the bone in the best interest of children and hope those I'm unpopular with recognize that I'm just trying to foster positive changes in child character education.

Andy

Actually that number of coaches is from camps, ODP, club coaches, guest playing etc,. I have warned you before about making assumptions about me without knowing who I am or what I am about. If my attitude were damaging, and this were about my ego my daughter would not play for the Legends and I would control her life. It was her decision to play for the Legends and to stay because of Jamie. I had nothing to do with it. She learned the majority of her "deceptive moves" from Tim Richardson. Tom and Jamie are excellent coaches, and while she enjoyed playing under Tom, in some respects she did not, but this is not about Tom. This is about your incessaant belief that I am resistant to change and I am not, I am quite tired of you making assumptions about individuals because they disagree with you. That is arrogant, condescending and quite frankly rude. As I have stated before, all I have ever told my child before every game is to play as hard as she could and have fun. Since it is patently obvious you know who I am and who my daughter is, please feel free to tell me in my face that I need an attitude adustment and I wil be free to give you one as well. I have fully supported Jamie in everything he has done as her coach. I have told him she is not leaving the team, and will do everything in her power to help her team improve. I will not stand for you questioning my character or question who my daughter has trained with. She has a internal drive to improve and will work with anyone whom she can learn from. In fact she is going to a soccer training tonight, ODP tomorrow and will start strength work next week. I don't know why you take my statements as an issue of win or lose, as I believe if you take care of the basics, the winning will take care of itself. Maybe some kids are fragile, but most are not. I suggest you quit being a pop psychologist and worry about yourself. If you wish to ask Jamie about me feel free. I fully support what he is doing and I have never said a negative word to any of her teammates. In fact, Andy I don't even say a word on the sidelines. My bias is against closed minded intolerant people who refuse to understand that everyone will not agree with them, but refuse to accept it. What you should understand is if my daughter is upset about losing, that is completely on her. She is a mature thoughtful child, and does not need me to control her opinions on things. Yes she is frustrated with how the season went, but what rational player wouldn't be? To imply that this is my fault is B.S. Any response I have made on this board is based on the challenges our team has had due to comments made on this board. I am quite happy with myself, and the life I have lived. I have three daughters who are thoughful intelligent, critical thinkers and more than willing to challenge conventional wisdom. She is the one who said she has learned less with the Legends, not me. She would be more than happy to tell you to your face, Andy, why don't ask David what she told him on Tuesday night at practice? I don't hide behind my children, they speak for themselves.
In closing, I have never questioned your character, integrity or goodwill towards youth soccer. I request that you please cease in questioning mine. See you on Tuesday nights.

Paul

I would never post anonymously!!

If I can't say it using my full name I don't say it.

It goes against my code of ethics to hide behind a cloak of anonymity.

If others want to do it that's fine by me. I'm glad that this forum allows anonymous posts because people can say what they truly feel and I get the full message from those who vehemently disagree with the purist Legends message. In a perverse way the cloak of anonymity allows people to open up and fire at me with both barrels. The message I receive is therefore far more "honest" than if everyone had to use their real name and adopt a softer stance as opposed to the hard hitting that currently occurs.

You aren't the first to accuse me of posting under another name. You are only the latest to be wrong.

Andy

In a pursuit of honesty, integrity, and full dislosure, I will cease to use an anoymous name. Hitman was a college nickname, and this will be the last post using it. If I feel the need to post in the future it will come from my Christian name of Frank White III.

I am responding to a post that was in the Notre Dame thread that should remain about those athletes, not the Legends.

Guess I won't be using him for all my money that I have buried in my backyard that I need to invest.



But you have no problem putting down a father from one of your club teams that wishes his daughter to train with coaches outside the Legend's program? That's really putting your code of ethics to the test huh?

6 degrees of Andy Barney

Okay, maybe there really is a 17-year-old futbol fan out there some place where friends are called mates, who is worried about the reputation of Kansas City soccer, who felt the need to warn others of potential lawsuits from picking on one club in particular, and who picked the name anonymouslikeyou. I can buy that.

I didn't take it as an insult, because I know the facts. Once you think you know everything, that is when you stop learning anything.