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#85151 - 03/22/12 01:49 PM High School scores
bleddry Offline
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Please post all of your HS game scores here. Makes it easier to follow the action around our two states..

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#85153 - 03/22/12 04:43 PM Re: High School scores [Re: bleddry]
whatever Offline
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Registered: 06/16/11
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LSW 1 - LIBERTY 1
LSN 7 - RAY-PEC 1

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#85161 - 03/22/12 09:01 PM Re: High School scores [Re: whatever]
zizou Offline
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Registered: 06/18/09
Posts: 83
St. Teresa's Academy 4 - Shawnee Mission East 0

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#85162 - 03/22/12 09:07 PM Re: High School scores [Re: zizou]
bleddry Offline
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Posts: 180
Kearney 4-0 Blue Springs
Platte County 2-0 Liberty North

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#85163 - 03/22/12 09:29 PM Re: High School scores [Re: zizou]
hindsight2020 Offline
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Originally Posted By: zizou
St. Teresa's Academy 4 - Shawnee Mission East 0


My ex wife has a friend whos daghter plays on the JV for STA. Watched the game.

Said if your big defender hadnt cheep shotted SMEs stud forward, you were in for trouble. If not for a slick field, you were in trouble.

Said the coach pulled the best STA kid out. 5 crosses and each chance missed.

Also herd the defenders are big and slow. Kearney gonna kill you. Liberty - that Clark girl, gonna eat you up.

Good result tho

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#85168 - 03/23/12 08:43 AM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
bleddry Offline
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Liberty vs Kearney 2-0
Platte County vs Oak Grove 10-0

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#85169 - 03/23/12 10:41 AM Re: High School scores [Re: bleddry]
BVSoccer Offline
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STA-4 SME-0 Watched the game and it did indeed rain. It wasn't even close. Like watching a Division 1 club team play a Division II team.

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#85174 - 03/23/12 12:29 PM Re: High School scores [Re: BVSoccer]
bob_e Offline
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Registered: 05/03/10
Posts: 73
Loc: Oak Grove, Mo.
Grain Valley vs Warrensburg 0-2
Grain Valley vs Pleasant Hill 4-0 might of been 5-0
Grain Valley vs Summit Christian Academy 3-0

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#85175 - 03/23/12 12:39 PM Re: High School scores [Re: bob_e]
skiddie Offline
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wow, platte county--on a different thread someone mentioned this PC team has a lot of KCFC U16/U17 top players...perhaps that is true.

I am surprised by the SME loss.

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#85176 - 03/23/12 12:47 PM Re: High School scores [Re: skiddie]
jjflash Offline
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Wow...could it be SME was over-rated in the preseason poll or is St. Teresa's just that good or something inbetween?

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#85177 - 03/23/12 12:49 PM Re: High School scores [Re: jjflash]
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LSN 8 - PARK HILL 0
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#85179 - 03/23/12 01:56 PM Re: High School scores [Re: skiddie]
bleddry Offline
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Originally Posted By: skiddie
wow, platte county--on a different thread someone mentioned this PC team has a lot of KCFC U16/U17 top players...perhaps that is true.

I am surprised by the SME loss.


Nope Kearney is the team with a bunch of KCFC Futura Academy players. PC has a couple good players as well from some of the other top HS aged teams. I was suprised by the Kearney Loss.

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#85181 - 03/23/12 02:45 PM Re: High School scores [Re: bleddry]
whatever Offline
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LSHS 0 - RAYTOWN 1

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#85182 - 03/23/12 05:39 PM Re: High School scores [Re: whatever]
SoccerPops Offline
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Raytown 3 Blue Springs South 2

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#85183 - 03/23/12 05:44 PM Re: High School scores [Re: SoccerPops]
skiddie Offline
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Interesting beginning on the MO side: some expected winners are losing.

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#85186 - 03/23/12 10:51 PM Re: High School scores [Re: skiddie]
Skwahog Offline
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Loc: Lee's Summit
LSHS 2- Sedalia Smith-Cotton 0

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#85190 - 03/24/12 10:35 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Skwahog]
midfieldmama Offline
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Is the youthsoccernet website gone or is there a new site with metro high school results?

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#85191 - 03/25/12 10:13 AM Re: High School scores [Re: midfieldmama]
TTown34 Offline
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Posts: 93
Score from March 15th:

Washburn Rural 3
Wichita Kapaun Mt. Carmel 0

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#85196 - 03/25/12 10:14 PM Re: High School scores [Re: TTown34]
Kevin Kelly Offline
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Registered: 06/07/05
Posts: 73
Loc: Independence, Missouri
Winnetonka tournament
Schlage 0 - 6 Ray South
Schlage 0 - 2 Grandview
Winn 0 - 2 Ray South
Winn 2 - 1 Grandview
Ray So. 7 - 1 Grandview

Schlage girls holding up well under the circumstances; and Winn. as host not playing a third game to accomadate Schlage.

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#85203 - 03/27/12 08:06 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Kevin Kelly]
zizou Offline
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Does anybody know the status of the injury to the SME girl (AS) from the the STA game last week? Hope she is o.k. Genuinely concerned as I have watched her play since she was 6 years old and she has come so far. Thanks.

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#85224 - 03/27/12 09:27 PM Re: High School scores [Re: zizou]
Kaka Offline
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Park Hill 10- 0 over NKC. Keep the scores coming, the high school websites stink. Half of them don't even update the rosters.

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#85226 - 03/27/12 09:51 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Kaka]
oldfatdude Offline
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Loc: Kansas
Lawrence Free State 7-0 over Shawnee Heights

Lawrence High 5-0 over Baldwin.

Baldwin has a girls team for the first time. This was their first game. It was really cool. They had a big fan turn out. The Baldwin people were so happy to have a team.

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#85227 - 03/27/12 10:32 PM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
SoccerPops Offline
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3/27/12 at Staley

Staley 4
Blue Springs South 1

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#85229 - 03/27/12 10:39 PM Re: High School scores [Re: SoccerPops]
Verdad Offline
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Truman 2-0 over Park Hill

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#85231 - 03/27/12 11:25 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Verdad]
ZusiDaMan Offline
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Registered: 03/27/12
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On 3/27/12
Mill Valley over Olathe North 5-0

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#85232 - 03/27/12 11:45 PM Re: High School scores [Re: ZusiDaMan]
Anon.E.Mouse Offline
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Registered: 11/04/10
Posts: 90
Washburn Rural 3 SM South 2
Olathe NW 4 - BV North 1

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#85236 - 03/28/12 07:17 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Anon.E.Mouse]
whatever Offline
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Registered: 06/16/11
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LSN 2 - Smithville 1
LSW 1 - Blue Springs 1
LSW 1 - Kearney 3
LSN 2(pks) - BVNW 1
LSW 3(pks) - LS 2

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#85244 - 03/28/12 09:25 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Anon.E.Mouse]
Zebra Offline
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On the other side of the bracket it was

OE 8 - Park Hill South 4
SMW 2 - Topeka Hayden 1

Winners play each other at 7 on Thursday
Other games at 5 on Thursday

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#85248 - 03/28/12 11:45 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Zebra]
billknust Offline
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Kearney 6 - Oak Park 0

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#85250 - 03/28/12 12:24 PM Re: High School scores [Re: billknust]
bleddry Offline
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Posts: 180
PC-Winnitonka 8-0

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#85260 - 03/28/12 08:37 PM Re: High School scores [Re: bleddry]
Anon.E.Mouse Offline
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Registered: 11/04/10
Posts: 90
St. Theresa 10 St. James 0
Liberty 6 De Sion 0

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#85261 - 03/28/12 09:52 PM Re: High School scores [Re: midfieldmama]
longball Offline
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Loc: KC
Originally Posted By: midfieldmama
Is the youthsoccernet website gone or is there a new site with metro high school results?


Midfield I was going to ask the same question. There was one for KC and one for STL and they both seem to have vanished. I don't even see any dead links in google results.
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#85262 - 03/28/12 09:53 PM Re: High School scores [Re: longball]
Anon.E.Mouse Offline
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amd the Kansas City Star's website sucks for high school sports... what happened to publishing scores?

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#85264 - 03/28/12 10:43 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Anon.E.Mouse]
ZusiDaMan Offline
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Staley over Mill Valley 3-1

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#85280 - 03/29/12 03:07 PM Re: High School scores [Re: ZusiDaMan]
SoccerPops Offline
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Registered: 06/11/11
Posts: 12
Ray-Pec 8, Blue Springs 0
Ft. Osage 3, Ray South 2

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#85281 - 03/29/12 03:24 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Anon.E.Mouse]
RAH47 Offline
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Posts: 101
Loc: Mo.
Not sure the problem, but I think the Star only post scores sent to them from the schools.If schools don't send in the results no scores posted. ??

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#85295 - 03/29/12 10:22 PM Re: High School scores [Re: RAH47]
Anon.E.Mouse Offline
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Registered: 11/04/10
Posts: 90
Olathe East 2 SM West 1
SM South 1 BV North 0
Olathe NW 0 Washburn Rural 1
Park Hill South 5 Topeka Hayden 0

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#85297 - 03/29/12 10:33 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Anon.E.Mouse]
oldfatdude Offline
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Registered: 08/05/10
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Loc: Kansas
Shawnee Mission East 4 -1 over Lawrence High.

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#85303 - 03/30/12 09:23 AM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
billknust Offline
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Registered: 02/26/12
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Kearney 7 - Excelsior Springs 0

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#85306 - 03/30/12 10:51 AM Re: High School scores [Re: billknust]
Keep It Fun Offline
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Registered: 06/25/05
Posts: 2404
Loc: Kansas City, MO
The RaySouth-FortOsage score was 2-2 2OT, and 1-3 KFTM.

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#85307 - 03/30/12 10:56 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Keep It Fun]
Keep It Fun Offline
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Loc: Kansas City, MO
So how does everyone feel about the sudden death overtime, and shootout rule to determine a winner in regular season HS games?

The season is physically hard enough without repeatedly asking fatigued players to play even longer.

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#85309 - 03/30/12 11:05 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Keep It Fun]
Proff Offline
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Registered: 06/13/11
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I think that FIFA Laws are good enough for the rest of the world - so they ought to be good enough for high school.

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#85312 - 03/30/12 01:49 PM Re: High School scores [Re: jjflash]
Skwahog Offline
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Registered: 06/08/10
Posts: 8
Loc: Lee's Summit
Lee's Summit 3 - Blue Springs 1

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#85320 - 03/31/12 04:41 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Skwahog]
SoccerPops Offline
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Posts: 12
Ray-Pec 2, Blue Springs South 1

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#85337 - 04/02/12 08:39 AM Re: High School scores [Re: SoccerPops]
hindsight2020 Offline
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St Theresa Stars vs. St Tom Saints. MO-KAN finals. Stars win 3-0.

the ex-wife didnt go watch the STA vs STA match at MO-KAN on saterday, and don't know if her friend went. So I wanted to find what went on.

the Aquinas website said them Teresians won 3-0. if that's true, those girls are better than my ex says (go figure). They beat 3 #1 KS teams = 5A (SME), 4A (STA), and 3A (SJA). All SHUTOUTS

Saints goals are on Saints website http://www.stasaints.net/s/348/index.aspx?sid=348&gid=1&pgid=736

to the dad that shared the videos (goto link and click "Final STE goal"), do you know the offsides rule? Offsides is when the ball is kicked. You and your wife (lady voice)are watching when the ball gots to the forward, not when the ball was kicked. Look at how the forward is waiting before she run. You are looking at the close defender, J Brown (first initial last name, really, not being mean or smart alleck), when the ball lands and not the defender behind her closer to the goal.

to put the title on the video (offside? eh?) and have it posted to the Saints website. Know the offsides rule or you could look like a poor loser

also isn't St Teresa's Academy "STA", the original STA, not "STE"?

if you are really bored, read Saints coach game review. jimminy crickets - a coach that says it like he sees it!

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#85338 - 04/02/12 09:01 AM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
jjflash Offline
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Registered: 03/10/09
Posts: 1010
Maize Lady Eagles vs opponents Titan Classic Blue Bracket:

Maize 3 Emporia 0 (first round game)

Maize 3 Derby 0 ( Semi-Final game called at half due to severe weather)

Maize 7 Kapaun 1 (Championship of Blue Bracket. Maize clears bench and KMC scores in the last 4 min. of regulation)

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#85341 - 04/02/12 12:13 PM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
zidane5 Offline
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Registered: 06/24/09
Posts: 737
actually I suspect he was wondering if the St Theresa girl near the goalie might have been in an offside position when the shot was taken and possibly could have been interpreted as interfering with the play.

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#85343 - 04/02/12 01:46 PM Re: High School scores [Re: zidane5]
hindsight2020 Offline
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Originally Posted By: zidane5
actually I suspect he was wondering if the St Theresa girl near the goalie might have been in an offside position when the shot was taken and possibly could have been interpreted as interfering with the play.


the man voice on video says "she offsides" and the woman agrees starting at 13 seconds into the 26 second video. the streaking forward is the only Stars player in the camera and she is running the ball down. no one else on Stars can be offsides b/c they are not involved in the play

its about nowing the rule - you can be in an offsides position if you are not ivolved in the play. the ref should not call it. law of the game was not broken

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#85344 - 04/02/12 01:47 PM Re: High School scores [Re: zidane5]
Keep It Fun Offline
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Loc: Kansas City, MO
From the video, the most forward attacker looks to be covered by the keeper, and the defender who had contested the cross moving in near the right post. She had every right to make a play on the ball.
The voice in the video seemed to think the player that made the original cross was off on the pass from midfield, but it looks like the central defender has her covered. The AR looked to be in good position to make that call.

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#85345 - 04/02/12 01:56 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Keep It Fun]
Keep It Fun Offline
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Loc: Kansas City, MO
You may be right H-sight. He might be referring to the forward on the far side. So true she's not involved in active play, and gained no advantage by being in an offside position if in fact she was even that.

A lesson sometimes learned the hard way.
"Better to stay silent and be thought ignorant than to open your mouth and prove it."

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#85346 - 04/02/12 01:56 PM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
zidane5 Offline
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Registered: 06/24/09
Posts: 737
totally agree that when play started ball played when girl onside. did not see Aquinas girl at other post that likely kept the STA player on who was near the keeper. my bad.

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#85347 - 04/02/12 02:30 PM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
freekick Offline
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Although it doesn't really matter, the female voice in the video disagrees with the male - she says, "No, I think she is on".

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#85352 - 04/03/12 12:38 AM Re: High School scores [Re: freekick]
Anon.E.Mouse Offline
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Posts: 90
She's on, and yes St Theresa is GOOD. I don't see them losing a game.

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#85353 - 04/03/12 08:50 AM Re: High School scores [Re: freekick]
hindsight2020 Offline
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Posts: 118
Originally Posted By: freekick
Although it doesn't really matter, the female voice in the video disagrees with the male - she says, "No, I think she is on".


i agree with you after watching the video again. my bad

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#85355 - 04/03/12 05:45 PM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
Skwahog Offline
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Registered: 06/08/10
Posts: 8
Loc: Lee's Summit
Lee's Summit 3- Lee's Summit North 2

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#85356 - 04/03/12 09:46 PM Re: High School scores [Re: freekick]
goalieKid Offline
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Originally Posted By: freekick
Although it doesn't really matter, the female voice in the video disagrees with the male - she says, "No, I think she is on".


Of coarse it doesn't matter.....the female voice ALWAYS disagrees with the male voice.

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#85357 - 04/03/12 10:16 PM Re: High School scores [Re: goalieKid]
oldfatdude Offline
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Registered: 08/05/10
Posts: 805
Loc: Kansas
Olathe North 3 - LHS 1

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#85358 - 04/03/12 10:18 PM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
Catfish Offline
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Registered: 08/20/10
Posts: 13
SMNW 4 Olathe South 2

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#85359 - 04/04/12 08:33 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Catfish]
Zebra Offline
journeyman

Registered: 08/29/11
Posts: 53
OE 1 SME 0
ONW 4 SMW 3

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#85360 - 04/04/12 10:04 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Zebra]
SoccerPops Offline
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Registered: 06/11/11
Posts: 12
Blue Springs 2, Blue Springs South 1
Lee's Summit North 2, Blue Springs South 0
Wm Chrisman 2, Winnetonka 1
Ft Osage 3, Belton 1
Grain Valley 5, Excelsior Springs 1

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#85369 - 04/04/12 08:13 PM Re: High School scores [Re: jjflash]
not that crazy Offline
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Posts: 34
(Lawrence) Free State 4 - SMS 1 last night

and I believe I saw the Lawrence HS keeper at the dentist this morning..she got kicked in faced against ON. Long season and new front teeth.


Edited by not that crazy (04/04/12 08:14 PM)

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#85371 - 04/04/12 10:26 PM Re: High School scores [Re: bleddry]
cp1310 Offline
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Registered: 11/01/05
Posts: 4
Truman -2
Barstow - 3

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#85372 - 04/04/12 10:45 PM Re: High School scores [Re: cp1310]
ZusiDaMan Offline
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Registered: 03/27/12
Posts: 13
Mill Valley over Bishop Miege 2-1

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#85373 - 04/04/12 10:56 PM Re: High School scores [Re: ZusiDaMan]
zizou Offline
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Registered: 06/18/09
Posts: 83
St. Teresa's over LSW 5-0.

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#85375 - 04/06/12 07:16 AM Re: High School scores [Re: zizou]
oldfatdude Offline
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Registered: 08/05/10
Posts: 805
Loc: Kansas
Lawrence Free State 2 - Shawnee Mission West 2

LHS lost to Shawnee Mission NW I think. Don't know the final score but it was something like 7-0.

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#85376 - 04/06/12 08:30 AM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
jjflash Offline
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Registered: 03/10/09
Posts: 1010
Maize 7 Andover Central 1

Wichita Northwest 6 Emporia 1

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#85378 - 04/06/12 11:12 AM Re: High School scores [Re: jjflash]
Keep It Fun Offline
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Registered: 06/25/05
Posts: 2404
Loc: Kansas City, MO
RayPec 1, LSN 2
RaySouth 3, Belton 2(1OT)

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#85382 - 04/06/12 01:03 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Keep It Fun]
jjflash Offline
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Does anyone know if Washburn Rural and Manhattan played last night?

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#85383 - 04/06/12 01:13 PM Re: High School scores [Re: jjflash]
TTown34 Offline
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Registered: 01/26/09
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Washburn Rural and Manhattan tied 1-1 last night.

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#85384 - 04/06/12 01:19 PM Re: High School scores [Re: TTown34]
SoccerPops Offline
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Registered: 06/11/11
Posts: 12
Lee's Summit 1, Blue Springs South 0

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#85390 - 04/07/12 09:55 AM Re: High School scores [Re: SoccerPops]
oldfatdude Offline
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Registered: 08/05/10
Posts: 805
Loc: Kansas
Free State 10 - 0 Lansing

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#85391 - 04/07/12 10:48 AM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
skiddie Offline
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Posts: 425
Here's a link to keep up on scores in case someone isn't posting the one you're looking for--apologies in case it's already been posted:

http://www.catchitkansas.com/stats/

My OE gals are lookin' good!

Sorry Missouri neighbors but the above web site only includes KS---Hey but on the MO side, it looks like St. Teresa's is the one to beat...lots of buzz about them...very consistent.

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#85392 - 04/07/12 11:14 AM Re: High School scores [Re: skiddie]
Unlucky Offline
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The phone number to report a score for CatchItKansas http://www.catchitkansas.com/stats/

is

316-831-6143

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#85397 - 04/07/12 06:19 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Unlucky]
oldfatdude Offline
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Registered: 08/05/10
Posts: 805
Loc: Kansas
BVW 8 -0 over LHS

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#85405 - 04/09/12 09:55 AM Re: High School scores [Re: skiddie]
Zebra Offline
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Registered: 08/29/11
Posts: 53
Here is a link to Kansas Coaches poll as of 4/8/12.

http://www.kansashighschoolsoccer.com/State-Rankings-For-Girls.html

OE 1
STA 2
BVNW 3

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#85413 - 04/09/12 09:14 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Zebra]
Verdad Offline
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Registered: 03/27/12
Posts: 2
Park Hill 2 Oak Park 0

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#85414 - 04/09/12 09:17 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Verdad]
whatever Offline
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Registered: 06/16/11
Posts: 24
Lees Summit North 4 - Lees Summit West 0. First annual Pink Out game between these two schools to benefit Breast Cancer Research.

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#85423 - 04/10/12 02:20 PM Re: High School scores [Re: whatever]
Skwahog Offline
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Registered: 06/08/10
Posts: 8
Loc: Lee's Summit
Lee's Summit 2 Raymore-Peculiar 1 OT

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#85426 - 04/10/12 09:14 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Skwahog]
soccerx4 Offline
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Registered: 09/28/05
Posts: 45
Blue Valley North 2 - St Thomas Aquanis 0

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#85427 - 04/10/12 09:15 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Skwahog]
KFarmer Offline
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Posts: 31
BVW 4 - St. Teresa's 2 in a very well-deserved victory. STA looked slow and complacent.

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#85428 - 04/10/12 09:41 PM Re: High School scores [Re: KFarmer]
soccerx4 Offline
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Posts: 45
You were at both games??

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#85430 - 04/11/12 08:04 AM Re: High School scores [Re: soccerx4]
SoccerPops Offline
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Registered: 06/11/11
Posts: 12
Liberty 1, Blue Springs South 0

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#85431 - 04/11/12 08:27 AM Re: High School scores [Re: SoccerPops]
jjflash Offline
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Registered: 03/10/09
Posts: 1010
Maize 10 McPherson 0

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#85433 - 04/11/12 08:56 AM Re: High School scores [Re: soccerx4]
KFarmer Offline
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No, just the St. Teresa's Academy game.


Edited by KFarmer (04/11/12 09:07 AM)
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#85434 - 04/11/12 11:10 AM Re: High School scores [Re: KFarmer]
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ONW 9 Lawrence 1
OE 2 OS 0

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#85447 - 04/12/12 09:08 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Zebra]
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Heart Of America Classic

Lee's Summit 2 Tulsa Union 2
Lee's Summit North 3 Deer Creek, Edmond OK.0
St. Teresa's 2 Grandview, CO. 0
St. Thomas Aquinas 3 Ft. Zumwalt West 1

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#85449 - 04/13/12 10:53 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Skwahog]
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Blue Springs South 8, Winnetonka 0

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#85454 - 04/13/12 09:18 PM Re: High School scores [Re: SoccerPops]
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Can records be posted, too? Thx

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#85455 - 04/13/12 09:25 PM Re: High School scores [Re: meatball]
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Lee's Summit 2, St. James Academy 0

LS 7-3-1

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#85459 - 04/14/12 05:32 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Skwahog]
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#85460 - 04/14/12 06:41 PM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
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Blue Springs South 3, Raytown South 0

BSS - 2-7
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#85461 - 04/14/12 08:20 PM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
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LS 8-3-1

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#85494 - 04/17/12 12:59 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Skwahog]
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OE 1 BVW 0

OE is 8-0
BVW is 6-1

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#85497 - 04/17/12 01:41 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Zebra]
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Yay, LHS gets to play Olathe East tonight. LHS already lost to BVW 8-0. Possiblility of 3 or 4 starters out with injury. This is going to be a tough one.

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#85509 - 04/17/12 09:07 PM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
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Two more LHS players injured in the first 3 minutes.

Olathe East 10 - LHS 0

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#85510 - 04/17/12 09:34 PM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
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Washburn Rural 7
Shawnee Heights 0

WR 7-1-1
SH 3-4-0

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#85512 - 04/18/12 12:37 AM Re: High School scores [Re: TTown34]
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BVW 5 - Manhattan 0

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#85514 - 04/18/12 08:25 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Anon.E.Mouse]
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Free State 0 Olathe NW 0

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#85515 - 04/18/12 09:45 AM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
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Maize 6 Hutchinson 0

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#85516 - 04/18/12 09:53 AM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
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LSN 2 - St Teresas 1

2nd loss for the holy ones and at home field (which is very nice new place)

decided to go watch the STA (STE?) girls

my ex wasn't wrong about the speed in back. S L O W

but that aint there only problem

too many dribble, dribble, dribble and then shoot from dumb places.

two many standing round watching

wrong girls in midfield and forward

wrong girl kickin' corners. who wants a lazer beam to head that goes 5-10 past the goal every time?

oh, Liberty and Kearney prob gonna beet STA also

STA dominated possession but who cares?

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#85517 - 04/18/12 11:55 AM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
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Originally Posted By: hindsight2020
LSN 2 - St Teresas 1

2nd loss for the holy ones and at home field (which is very nice new place)

decided to go watch the STA (STE?) girls

my ex wasn't wrong about the speed in back. S L O W

but that aint there only problem

too many dribble, dribble, dribble and then shoot from dumb places.

two many standing round watching

wrong girls in midfield and forward

wrong girl kickin' corners. who wants a lazer beam to head that goes 5-10 past the goal every time?

oh, Liberty and Kearney prob gonna beet STA also

STA dominated possession but who cares?


Hahaha! Hindsight, you sure this isn't some foresight on your account? You didn't trust your ex, so you had to go see it for yourself huh?

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#85523 - 04/18/12 06:06 PM Re: High School scores [Re: jjflash]
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went to Olathe East v Blue Valley West game on Monday to

point was to watch football

both teams are good

dont get the OE coach. he packs in tight on d way to early in the game

jj, wanna make the call here if Maize will beet OE or BVW in state tourney?

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#85528 - 04/19/12 08:33 AM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
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Originally Posted By: hindsight2020
went to Olathe East v Blue Valley West game on Monday to

point was to watch football

both teams are good

dont get the OE coach. he packs in tight on d way to early in the game

jj, wanna make the call here if Maize will beet OE or BVW in state tourney?



Don't know if Maize can "beet" either one of those teams...just hoping Maize gets in the Final Four to get the chance to play one of those teams. We'll see.

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#85532 - 04/19/12 11:50 AM Re: High School scores [Re: jjflash]
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Blue Valley North 3 - Blue Valley NW 1.

BVN 4-1 in EKL

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#85534 - 04/19/12 01:14 PM Re: High School scores [Re: soccerx4]
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Kearney v STA next Thursday. That game should be a highlight of the season on the Missouri side. Might have to go watch that one. I am going with Kearney and the upset.

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#85543 - 04/19/12 10:08 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Kaka]
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Mill Valley played DeSoto in their annual (?) breast cancer awareness game at Livestrong Stadium tonight.

I have been to several of these awesome fundraisers at different schools and they've all been great. However, I have never been so impressed by the turn out I saw tonight. There were an estimated 3,500 people there and the crowd was really into the game. Of course, the venue is amazing and the players were totally stoked to be playing on Sporting's field. Everyone had a lot of fun and I hope they raised a lot of money.

Well done Mill Valley and DeSoto High Schools. Well done.

Oh..BTW..Mill Valley won 4-0. I think their record is 8-1???


Edited by ZusiDaMan (04/19/12 10:09 PM)

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#85547 - 04/20/12 07:32 AM Re: High School scores [Re: ZusiDaMan]
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Free State 9 Leavenworth 1

Free State is 5-1-2.

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#85559 - 04/20/12 12:53 PM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
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For those that do not get KC Star

BVNW 3 Columbia Rockbridge 1
LSN 3 Liberty 1
LSW 10 North KC 0
OE 3 SMW 2 OT
ONW 1 SMNW 0 OT
SME 6 ON 0

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#85570 - 04/21/12 08:20 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Zebra]
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Pink Out Night for the Maize Lady Eagles last night...10-0'd Wichita Heights with 16 1/2 min. left to spare in the game.

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#85574 - 04/21/12 05:24 PM Re: High School scores [Re: jjflash]
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Washburn Rural 2
Olathe NW 1

2nd time Rural has beat Olathe NW on the road.

Rural 8-1-1
ONW 5-4-1

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#85576 - 04/21/12 07:57 PM Re: High School scores [Re: TTown34]
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kaka after looking at the records online for MO side, I think you are right about the Kearney team-they seem to be beating some good teams. Looks like they may be the MO powerhouse this year.

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#85626 - 04/24/12 10:11 PM Re: High School scores [Re: topeka]
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BV West 1 St James 0

no clue on records...

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#85630 - 04/24/12 11:32 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Anon.E.Mouse]
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Leavenworth 3 - LHS 0

No offense to Leavenworth people who might be on here, but this is a dark, dark day for LHS Girls Soccer.

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#85647 - 04/25/12 12:40 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Anon.E.Mouse]
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BV West 1 St James 0

no clue on records...


I think BV West is 9-1-1 ranked #2 in the State Overall and St. James Academy is like 2-6-1 and ranked #2 in Class 4A. Crazy huh?

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#85649 - 04/25/12 01:13 PM Re: High School scores [Re: topeka]
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Originally Posted By: topeka
kaka after looking at the records online for MO side, I think you are right about the Kearney team-they seem to be beating some good teams. Looks like they may be the MO powerhouse this year.


We will see tomorrow night. I did hear Kearney has quite a few injuries at this point, but I am sure St Theresa's does too. Having watched alot of these kids play club, my guess would be Kearney controls the midfield and has a couple defenders that match up fairly well with the St Teresa's forward. Kearney wins it 2-1.

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#85651 - 04/25/12 04:12 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Kaka]
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Originally Posted By: Kaka
Having watched alot of these kids play club, my guess would be Kearney controls the midfield and has a couple defenders that match up fairly well with the St Teresa's forward.


Kaka,

does STE only play with 1 forward or is only 1 of them forwards a scoring threat?

what you think on the speed of each team? I think STE has fast players (up top and in mid) but plays slow futbol. Girl for girl, Kearney not as fast but plays faster when it counts.

plus, Kearney is tougher.




Edited by hindsight2020 (04/25/12 05:53 PM)

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#85658 - 04/25/12 09:27 PM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
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Mill Valley over Blue Valley Southwest tonight. 1-0
Mill Valley is 10-1

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#85678 - 04/26/12 06:47 PM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
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Kaka and Hindsight. Just heard that STA beat Kearney 2-1. I wasn't there. You both said that you would be in attendance. What happened? Off day for Kearney? Best players injured?

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#85680 - 04/26/12 07:44 PM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
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It's STA (St. Teresa's Academy) not STE. It has been STA for over 100 years. Hence the bumper sticker that says "The Original STA."

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#85683 - 04/26/12 09:18 PM Re: High School scores [Re: zizou]
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I actually got off my couch and attended the game. Great game. Better than the Park college women's games I used to watch. St Teresa's is very good. They definitely dominated the run of play. Kearney was dangerous on the counters and it was 1-1 until the final 2 minutes. Kearney had almost everyone playing so I don't think injuries were a factor.

STA goalie is pretty freakin good off her line. She broke up at least 5 through balls that Kearney probably scores on. Kearney probably should have adjusted and attacked with corner flag balls.

But all the credit to STA. They are really good.

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#85684 - 04/26/12 09:28 PM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
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I would not say STA plays slow. They play patient. That whole team holds the ball really well.

That middle defender for STA, the Comets girl, she is nails. Top ten school D1.

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#85689 - 04/27/12 08:37 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Kaka]
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Originally Posted By: Kaka
That middle defender for STA, the Comets girl, she is nails. Top ten school D1.


your view of the game and her makes me wonder. people always are seein things different. I

I dont think she have that good a game. dont get me wrong. wasnt bad, but nothin wow! shes good. gotta leg like a howitzer. very good at dribbling.

but in last night game - no assists, no goals, no corners, no scary direct kicks

did she shut down our forwards? Mizzou-bound forward scored, STE center back didnt engage any forward one-on-one much. outside defense do the hard worked and she picked up if the attack got threw.

you even say through balls by Kearney should have resulted in more goals. the outside defenders saved goalie bunches on the counters and threw balls

i dont see STE going far in playoffs. patience is hard if other team scores first. Kearney should have scored first and game woulda been diffrent

also, STE got the wrong girl at mid. 15+ turnovers is a opponent dream in states.

these 2 teams will meat again

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#85690 - 04/27/12 08:59 AM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
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Hindsight. If you were STE's coach what changes would you make regarding positioning? You can give us player numbers and where you would put them on the field. I agree that 15+ turnovers is an opponent's dream in State. Keeping possession will be critical to any long term success.

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#85691 - 04/27/12 09:44 AM Re: High School scores [Re: zizou]
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Dont know alot STE players or numbers. But, the midfielder for them is a girl from north of the river. Seen her play over the years in club ball. There was another mid that didnt play a whole lot, blonde hair. Kept her head up and passed off to forwards and defenders when she needed to.

I like mids with passing skills, dont give ball away and that play defence. Gotta be tough, but gotta see open forwards

Shes an awesome athlete. Better at forward. More dangerous. But I get it. High shcool different from club

Has she been at mid all year? Seen her name in paper. Lots of goals. Was she scoring at forward or mid more?

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#85694 - 04/27/12 10:10 AM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
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I liked the move of dropping her to midfield. I think it made a difference in the game. Agree in many cases she is better at forward. Kearney played too much target ball. And the target was smothered by the STA middle defender.

Corner flag balls. You are not going straight up the middle of the field on that STA defender and goalie.


Edited by Kaka (04/27/12 10:10 AM)

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#85695 - 04/27/12 10:11 AM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
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Hindsight. I am confused. Is the Mizzou-bound forward that you referred to in an earlier post the same player as the midfielder from north of the river that you are talking about in your last post? Are you talking about the same kid playing in 2 different positions? I believe that she might play both MF and forward at STE. If this is the same kid, are you suggesting that she is more suited to playing forward vs. MF? You might be spot on. Did this player actually have 15+ turnovers but also score a goal? If so, in this town all anybody will remember is the goal that was scored. The turnovers will be an afterthougt probably not even noticeable to the untrained eye, which is pretty much everybody in the stands and most HS coaches. If we are talking about the same player, then I think goals have come from both positions. Like you said, awesome athlete, very determined, hard worker, very good at getting on the end of served balls.

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#85696 - 04/27/12 10:34 AM Re: High School scores [Re: zizou]
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Mizzu forward from Kearney. Tall girl. Athletic. Her goal was pretty.

STE midfielder. Seen her play both forward and mid in 2 games now. Different player than Mizzou.

i respect kaka. he seems to know what he's talking about. but we dont see eye to eye here.

STE plays in the middle all around field.

I think thats what KaKa's "corner flag balls". STE needs to do more like that.

Kaka, how many times STE stuffed cold in middle? Kearney defence had two many players in there that were bigger and tougher. How many Kearney counters caused by STA give aways in the mid? way to much!

Last goal for STE. mid finally passed ball out wide, ball sent in, defence focused on player who got ball, leaving other player open. pass. goal.

When they meat again, Kearney wins. 3-1. A through ball will get through and Kearney will hit a long bomb

Liberty gonna prob win next week over STE.

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#85697 - 04/27/12 10:41 AM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
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Hindsight. Thanks for clearing up. Do you think that Kearney and Liberty could beat STE if they played the ball wide more often?

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#85698 - 04/27/12 10:54 AM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
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I don't think Liberty can get STA. STA is definitley beatable, but bottom line is they are the deeper team between Kearney and Liberty. Top 6 or 7 kids match up well, but STA is deeper.

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#85700 - 04/27/12 02:18 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Kaka]
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Upper hand on coaching
Kearney or STA?

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#85703 - 04/27/12 02:43 PM Re: High School scores [Re: RAH47]
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STA

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#85705 - 04/27/12 03:56 PM Re: High School scores [Re: RAH47]
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Originally Posted By: RAH47
Upper hand on coaching
Kearney or STA?


STA coach has kids in wrong positions. Don't know if that is the case w/Kearney.

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#85707 - 04/27/12 04:02 PM Re: High School scores [Re: zizou]
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Originally Posted By: RAH47
Upper hand on coaching
Kearney or STA?


STA coach has kids in wrong positions. Don't know if that is the case w/Kearney.


STA coach doesn't appear to make adjustments during the match. Every game the exact same substitution pattern is utilized at the exact same minute marks with the exact same kids coming in or out or moving around. Doesn't matter whether the team is winning, losing, playing well, playing flat, etc. No real attempts to make adjustments based on what opponent is doing.

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#85710 - 04/27/12 04:33 PM Re: High School scores [Re: zizou]
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I don't see either one of these teams enough to comment on the coaching for the long term. For this one game, I thought STA had the right gameplan. They had the advantage on possession and the run of play.

I would have got my target player from Kearney out wide after the first five times she got smothered by that central defender at midfield.

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#85716 - 04/27/12 06:53 PM Re: High School scores [Re: zizou]
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I do think it would be interesting to see the STA central defender play another position. Maybe mid. The reason she never did anything offensively in that game was she marked the kearney forward. She opened up a little bit when STA had the ball, but not much.

District playoffs should be good on the missouri side. LSN, STA, Kearney, and Liberty will be going at it. And by then hopefully they have a game plan.

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#85718 - 04/27/12 09:44 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Kaka]
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I didnt see game that way. Center defender wasn't marking the target. There was just no adjustment by target or Bulldogs coach to change spots.

Looked slot like same attack as Futura. Straight on assault. Out hustle opponent.

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#85719 - 04/27/12 10:06 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Kaka]
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Kaka,

Is target player a senior or underclassman?

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#85721 - 04/28/12 09:21 AM Re: High School scores [Re: RAH47]
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senior

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#85722 - 04/28/12 10:08 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Kaka]
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Olathe East 10-0 plays Free State 9-1-2 on Tuesday. I think East will win 1-0, but it will be interesting.

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#85730 - 04/28/12 04:53 PM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
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Besides a couple of 10 minute stretches each half, STA held the ball in Kearney's half for much of the game. WIth that much defending Kearney got tired and when they did whack a ball up to the forward nobody followed to help. That is not how their futura team plays, They attack in bunches with lots of runs off the ball. And they build it up better out of the back. Too many whacks out of the back in that STA game. They have to get that fixed before the next meeting in districts.

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#85750 - 04/29/12 06:23 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Kaka]
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The only way Kearney(Dist.16) sees STA(Dist.14) is for them both to make it to the quarterfinals.
That's a lot of "ifs". Neither are a shoo-in to get out of their districts.
Mo.Class 3 District assignments.

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#85755 - 04/29/12 09:47 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Keep It Fun]
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I think both teams make the quarterfinal. They are both too good.

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#85757 - 04/30/12 08:44 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Kaka]
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STA has a history of finding a way to lose to LSN in Districts. We will see. If STA plays selfish, they are toast.

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#85791 - 04/30/12 09:06 PM Re: High School scores [Re: zizou]
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St. Teresa's 3 - Liberty 1. STA was ahead 3-0 after 8 minutes. Game was pretty even after that.

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#85792 - 04/30/12 10:09 PM Re: High School scores [Re: KFarmer]
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There's a few stumbling blocks in Kearney's way.
Staley is no picnic. Arguably the best Jr. in the city with them. Her runs off the ball are impressive.
Then Park HS is likely for sectionals. They are a deep team that substitutes a lot. Put their best 11 on the field for most of the game, and they can hold their own.
Both of those teams are capable of holding the ball, and can apply high pressure, the tactic apparently STA employed.
For STA, if they can get past LSN, they can't afford to look past their sectional opponent whomever that might be, LS, LSW, Ray-Pec. All have highly competent rosters that can win on any given (day other than) Sunday.

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#85793 - 04/30/12 10:17 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Keep It Fun]
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If only someone could rattle the cage of the media, and get them to cover these playoffs.
Three of the four local Mo. district finals will be highly competitive, and good quality soccer.
Then above that, it will get better.
Somebody should at least be able to figure out how to get these games on the internet instead of just the final 4.

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#85799 - 05/01/12 08:14 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Keep It Fun]
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Anybody care to comment on the STA/Libery match yesterday. I was not there, the wife was. Her version was STA played solid team-oriented soccer in 1st half and dominated. 2nd half a different story. STA reverted back to selfish, head-down, dribble, dribble, poor posession, direct, high-turnover style and Liberty could have actually gotten back into the match. Is this what others saw? If so, why doesn't the STA coach put an end to the selfish play when he sees it? Does he see it? It appears that when STA plays the right way, they are a very tough team to contend with. When the selfish play starts with 1 or 2 players the whole flow and chemistry is destoyed and STA becomes very vulnerable. Any comments from eyewitnesses?

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#85804 - 05/01/12 09:08 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Keep It Fun]
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I saw half of the Kearney/Staley game a few weeks ago. Kearney dominated that game. I think the final was 5-1. Staley could not link up two passes to save their life. You can tell they have alot of talented individual players. That midfielder Staley has is impressive.

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#85807 - 05/01/12 09:46 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Kaka]
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STA/Liberty -STA dominated the first 10 mins, then Liberty made a couple of adjustments and clogged the passing lanes, making things much more difficult for STA. Liberty came back mostly through balls on the wings/over the top and could have had 2 goals in 1st half and only been down 3-2 @ the break. 2nd half was a battle between the 18s, few clear chances for either team.

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#85821 - 05/01/12 12:34 PM Re: High School scores [Re: CoachPlayRefNLS]
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Coach,

what adjustments did Liberty make? did STE coach change anything?

did "dribble, dribble, turnover happen in 2nd half?

have you seen Kearney or LSN play?

who you think is playin the best soccer? why?

thank you

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#85833 - 05/01/12 05:02 PM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
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Apologies if this has been posted already, but as far as MO goes: The latest coaches polls can be found at the MSHSAA web site:

http://www.mosoccercoach.com/12girlspoll.html

As you can see, they are ranking St.Te Acad. above Kearney at this time. I've not seen either team play but now I'm curious.

Is this the time where we agree with these high school coaches, or we agree that most high school coaches don't have a clue? (LOL)

Also, since St.Louis does such a good job covering soccer news instead of the KC area, here is a website I found you can use as well for MO:

http://soccerstl.net/topics/highschool/polls/

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#85838 - 05/01/12 09:40 PM Re: High School scores [Re: skiddie]
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OE - 5 Lawrence Free State - 0

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#85839 - 05/01/12 09:45 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Pete and Delmar]
Kaka Offline
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OFD is at the Free State Brewery after that game. Wow. 5-0. I kind of want to see this Olathe East team.

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#85840 - 05/01/12 09:49 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Kaka]
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BVSW over BVN: 1-0 in overtime.

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#85845 - 05/01/12 11:01 PM Re: High School scores [Re: ozsoccer]
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I am a little surprised at the 5-0 score of OE over Free State. I predicted OE would win 1-0. To a certain Extent Free State's record is based on beating bad teams. Of there 9 wins I think they have wins over Shawnee Heights, Lansing, Garner Edgertan, Topeka High. In the Sunflower league they have now lost to OE and Shawnee Mission East. They tied Shawnee Mission West. So they are probably the 3rd or 4th best team in the Sunflower League. Having said that I expect them to Mercy Rule LHS on Thursday. They do have some really good players. By the way LHS beat SMN 2-0.

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#85862 - 05/02/12 11:27 AM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
Zebra Offline
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Free State needs to put some padding on that wall on the South side of the field. OE player chased a ball to the endline and ended up running into the wall. No player went after a ball near the end line after that.

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#85864 - 05/02/12 11:36 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Zebra]
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Zebra I 100% agree with you on that. Both Lawrence schools have a stone wall behind one goal. Somebody is going to go head first into that wall and be very seriously injured. I love both fields. They are one million times better than where the schools had to play previously, but those walls are a horrible idea.

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#85926 - 05/03/12 09:43 PM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
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Kearney 3-1 over Smithville. I got off my butt and went out to another high school game. I am kind of digging this high school soccer.

Kearney looked much better out of the back. Nice and controlled and they found the mids. Kearney looked good all over the field.

First time I have seen Smithville. Know a few of their players. Strong down the middle from goalie through forward. And the whole team hustles. They were getting to balls.

Alot of long target balls. That is going to be a bad style against STA next week. My advice to Smithville.....don't play those target balls to the middle. Send them out wide. Possession is going to be 80/20 in favor of STA, so don't squander your chances by going down the middle. Move one of those strong middle players outside for the STA game. Its your only chance of squeaking out a win.

That is my professional soccer parent advice.

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#85937 - 05/04/12 09:50 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Kaka]
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again, kaka and i see things different but i was at LSN game vs STE. the outside defence for STE is the speed in back, and one of the outside backs looks to be the tallest on the team and fast.

LSN didnt score by corner flag balls. Kaka, i dont think thats how Kearney scored against them

i think alot of locals think one player (Kaka's "target") is the way to win. zizou, he sounds sad about STE play sometimes, keeps saying "dribble & head down".

combinations, wall passes, one-touch, two-touch. fast play up around slow players. that will win

the center defender Kaka raves about owns the pitch for headers. corner flag crosses, the receiver of that cross better be big (tall and stout) and leap like a deer. Comet girl will own her and snuff out the chance

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#85943 - 05/04/12 10:37 AM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
Zebra Offline
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Score from last night

BVN 3 BV 0
BVNW 1 BVW 1
LSN 2 BS 1
OE 3 ONW 0
OS 10 Leavenworth 0
SMW 2 SME 1
St Theresa 2 St James 0

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#85944 - 05/04/12 10:43 AM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
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I am not a huge fan of target soccer, but they use it alot in the high school games I have seen.

I agree with what you are saying, but I am also a realist, and you are not going to teach smithville to play great possession and combination attacking by next Thursday when they play STA.

75% of the time, smithville skips over the midfielders anyway. Balls go straight from defenders to forwards.

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#85945 - 05/04/12 11:44 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Kaka]
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"Target soccer", huh?
That's a nice way to put it.
It used to be called,
"boot and chase", or "kick and run".
Another way to put it,
"Ugly American soccer."
Honestly, how many HS girls can consistently complete 40+ yd passes?
Put the ball on the ground, pass to feet, play the way your facing, play away from pressure. A player with limited skill can still play smart.
There are a number of those "target" players that won't finish the season too. They're injured.
Putting them, no matter how good they are, in a position where for them to get possession they have to win a 50-50 ball, then instill in them the mentality that then it's up to them to create their own scoring opportunity is low percentage against a marginally competent defense, and is risky. Some have paid the price.

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#85946 - 05/04/12 12:08 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Keep It Fun]
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Keep it fun you have to know what kind of players you have. If you are facing a team that is far faster, bigger, stronger and talented say OE, you can try to complete 10 passes and work your way up the field. What will happen though is by the 2nd or third pass the bigger stronger more talented team has knocked you off the ball and you never made it past midfield. Now if you have a couple of fast players, why not try to send some to the corner flag and see if you can beat somebody to the ball. Sometimes its your only hope. Not the way you would like to play neccesarily but the only way to have success. I don't recommend bypassing the midfiled. But if you are totally outmanned I would have the midfielders playing balls out into space.

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#85948 - 05/04/12 12:54 PM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
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Yeah, I saw Blue Springs South beat STA in sectionals (may have been district final) a few years ago like that. BSS camped their fast forward in the center circle and packed in the defense fending off uncountable shots from outside the 18. The "woodwork" took such a beating it may have needed replacing afterward. BSS got two break-aways and finished them both.
Here's the question. If Kearney is that good, why do they play "target soccer", and put a player that's already had an ACL injury at increased risk?
The odds can be beaten every so often, but to sustain that throughout to win a title is highly unlikely.

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#85949 - 05/04/12 01:01 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Keep It Fun]
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Side note: I doubt we'll see Mariano Rivera in the outfield shagging balls over the shoulder anytime soon.

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#85953 - 05/04/12 01:38 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Keep It Fun]
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Free State 4 Lawrence High 1
Free State completely dominated time of possession and LHS only had one shot on goal. Low score is an indication of Free State Senior Night and the LHS keeper.

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#85954 - 05/04/12 01:54 PM Re: High School scores [Re: not that crazy]
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Not that Crazy, is the Free State Defender who got kicked in the face OK? She is darn good.

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#85955 - 05/04/12 02:06 PM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
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Kaka, gotcha. you werent saying it was the way to win, but it was a better way than what Smithville showed against Kearney

we probably agree more than i figured

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#85964 - 05/04/12 08:58 PM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
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Kearney needs to move somebody to the back. I think they are a little top heavy against the really good teams. They have so many scoring threats in the mids and forwards that you can afford to drop somebody back.

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#85970 - 05/05/12 05:05 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Kaka]
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SMNW 2 BVN 1 Double OT

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#86059 - 05/08/12 09:17 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Catfish]
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Edited by Pete and Delmar (05/08/12 09:40 PM)

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#86065 - 05/08/12 10:01 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Pete and Delmar]
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SMNW 2 Free State 1

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#86127 - 05/10/12 09:26 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Catfish]
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OE 3 - Blue Valley 0

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#86130 - 05/10/12 10:01 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Pete and Delmar]
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BVSW - 3 Free State - 1

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#86134 - 05/11/12 01:33 AM Re: High School scores [Re: ozsoccer]
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Park Hill South - 0 Raytown - 1

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#86146 - 05/11/12 09:52 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Keep It Fun]
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SMNW 1 SME 1 Double OT

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#86176 - 05/14/12 10:18 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Catfish]
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SMNW is my alma mater by the way. So nice tie with OE.

Kearny 1-0 over Staley in the playoffs. Good game. Staley came to try and pull something off. Packed the box and got a few chances on the other end. Good gameplan against a team they knew would dominate possession. Staley has some talent. They don't link it up very well yet, but they could be good.

Kearney looked good and held the ball well. The back line looked very composed and confident enough to dribble it out of the back. I love that.

Key injury for Kearney in the midfield last week v Smithville. She is a big game changer. I mean one person does not usually change a team that much, but her workrate/skills/soccer IQ is hard to replace.

I predict the Liberty playoff game on Wednesday is going to be very close. 1-0 either way. Its going to be a good one.

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#86228 - 05/16/12 12:27 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Kaka]
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I would like to give special notice to Grandview High School for winning a game in Districts, 4-0 over Center High School.
Can't say for sure, but it might be the first time that's happened.
This team with a history of goal-spread losses played perhaps more full duration games than ever before. Last year in conference I think they were outscored something like 89-1.
Give the coach, and a handful of players with some skill some credit, but much of that can be attributed to an outstanding goal keeper. Don't know what grade she's in. She not only stops shots, and collects crosses, but she's a good distributer. Besides being a good athlete, she must be playing club ball somewhere, and perhaps has gotten some specialized training. A lot of teams would have benefitted having her.

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#86232 - 05/16/12 01:28 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Keep It Fun]
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If you want to see that keeper play against a truer test of her abilities, Grandview plays Notre Dame De Sion tonight at Grain Valley HS at 5:00.
Local college/jc recruiters might find it worth the trip.

p.s. Don't know anything about this player. Just seen her play.
p.s.s Still better be there for the first half. Even with her, it could end early. We'll see.

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#86245 - 05/16/12 10:01 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Keep It Fun]
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Kearney over Liberty on pks. Holy crap that was a good game. Just dangerous kids all over the field. And I have seen 80% of them play since they were u-little.

I have not seen alot of Liberty games, but they move some key players all around the field during the game. Forward back to mid, forward back to defender. Liberty had the edge first half and then started moving kids around and Kearney had the better second half.

I think Liberty plays too defensive. There is no way they need to be playing with a sweeper.

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#86246 - 05/16/12 10:13 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Kaka]
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And I know the sweeper for Liberty because she played with my kids for many seasons. She can do everything she does at sweeper if you play her at central back. She is a great defender, and coaches like to use her as a safety blanket. But I never saw her dribble out of the back once. That kid is very dangerous when you get her moving up field with the ball.

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#86264 - 05/17/12 10:20 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Keep It Fun]
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Originally Posted By: Keep It Fun
If you want to see that keeper play against a truer test of her abilities, Grandview plays Notre Dame De Sion tonight at Grain Valley HS at 5:00.
Local college/jc recruiters might find it worth the trip.

p.s. Don't know anything about this player. Just seen her play.
p.s.s Still better be there for the first half. Even with her, it could end early. We'll see.


The Grandview keeper is the most dangerous player on the team. Fast distribution as soon as she stops other team shot

Sad results last night. Sion beat em good

Keeper plays for a Futura team, i think

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#86265 - 05/17/12 10:30 AM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
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Just want to point out Kaka , I called it at the start of the season..now if PC could just beat Smithville tonight, I will be 2 for 2.

If Kearney doesn't win State, I will be shocked.Player for player, they are probably the deepest team I have watched all season, and they are gaining speed. They know it's now or never, the will loose a lot of key seniors next year in some very important positions.They will still be good next year but wont have that target player up front, or pretty much their entire back line or keeper next year. This is the best shot the will probably ever have.

STA will take down LSN and that will set up a STA Kearney rematch at some point, and this time I think Kearney wins 2-1 in a close game.

Whoever wins the Smithville, Platte County game will have a great shot at a final four run.Lots of good games going on..

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#86268 - 05/17/12 11:04 AM Re: High School scores [Re: bleddry]
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Last meeting was a great game and PC, made one defense mistake and Smithville fwd was there to challenge it, If Defender would have just passed back to keeper like she is trained to do it would have never happened. PC only has one senior, so very very young team learning more by playing in a great conference.
Unlike there Smithville rival that plays in such a weak conference.
Should be a typical battle.

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#86270 - 05/17/12 11:13 AM Re: High School scores [Re: pcsoccer]
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Originally Posted By: pcsoccer

Last meeting was a great game and PC, made one defense mistake and Smithville fwd was there to challenge it, If Defender would have just passed back to keeper like she is trained to do it would have never happened. PC only has one senior, so very very young team learning more by playing in a great conference.
Unlike there Smithville rival that plays in such a weak conference.
Should be a typical battle.


heya Donnie, dat u?

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#86271 - 05/17/12 11:16 AM Re: High School scores [Re: pcsoccer]
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Originally Posted By: pcsoccer

PC only has one senior, so very very young team learning more by playing in a great conference.
Unlike there Smithville rival that plays in such a weak conference.
Should be a typical battle.


Should be a great game, but my money is on Smithville. They know they play in a weak conference, but look at their out of conference games: Lee's Summit North, St. Teresa's, Kearney, Sion, Park Hill, Liberty North, Platte County, Staley, Pembroke Hill and Harrisonville among others.

They pretty much play the same conference schedule Platte County does minus Oak Park and Grandview. Now they only play them once, but when you add Sion, Pem Hill, St. Teresa's and Lee's Summit North there is not a more tested Class 2 team on this side of the state.

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#86291 - 05/17/12 04:14 PM Re: High School scores [Re: billknust]
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Thanks for the nice remarks about Grandview's keeper. She does not play club, she is one of those multi-sport athletes who is just gifted. She has gotten some training at GK, through connections from school. [Big smile when she read your comments.]

I would say SION is the best team I have seen. They played the ball around well and get runners going forward.

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#86300 - 05/17/12 06:47 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Kevin Kelly]
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1-0 Smithville at the half . They are getting the better of the play.Nice shot in a crowded box don't think keeper saw it with half her team standing in front of her. I think Smithville comes away with the win...PC just not mature enough yet and only one real scoring threat up front that Smithville is taking care of well at this point.

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#86302 - 05/17/12 08:18 PM Re: High School scores [Re: bleddry]
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LSN 2 - St. Teresas 0

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#86306 - 05/17/12 09:45 PM Re: High School scores [Re: whatever]
Kaka Offline
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Very interesting.....I bet that was a good game. Did LSN beat them on counters or what happened?

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#86308 - 05/17/12 09:53 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Kaka]
ozsoccer Offline
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BVSW-9 Topeka Seamon-1

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#86310 - 05/17/12 10:33 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Kaka]
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OLathe East 2 - Olathe Northwest 0
St James 2 - KC Christian 0
De Soto 3 - Bonner Springs 2
BV Southwest 9 - Topeka Seamen 1
BV West 3 - BV Northwest 0

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#86311 - 05/17/12 10:39 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Kaka]
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LSN #7 scored 2 in the first 4 minutes. Played aggressive and penetrated their defense. Rest of the game gave both teams numerous scoring opportunities, but defenses held. Very even game, great game to watch.

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#86317 - 05/18/12 07:54 AM Re: High School scores [Re: whatever]
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Lawrence Free State 3-2 over Washburn Rural in double OT. If they play Manhattan next they will win that one as well.

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#86318 - 05/18/12 08:13 AM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
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Fatdude, you really have something against Manhattan dont you. Free State is a good team but they will go west and Manhattan will play a Wichita team. They will probably host Wichita NW on Tuesday because Hutchinson lost.

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#86319 - 05/18/12 08:24 AM Re: High School scores [Re: whatever]
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Originally Posted By: whatever
LSN #7 scored 2 in the first 4 minutes. Played aggressive and penetrated their defense. Rest of the game gave both teams numerous scoring opportunities, but defenses held. Very even game, great game to watch.


I have to respectfully disagree. I was there. STA played terrible. They could barely string 3 passes together the entire night. When they could get behind LSN's packed-in defense (which was rare)the quality of the crosses were pathetic and most often went behind the goal. STA had a 5'3" 110lb player standing up top all by herself surrounded by 3-4 much larger LSN players for much of the match. It appeared that the strategy was to launch balls in the air and see if the kid could muster a miracle, while choosing to not play to her feet. No chance to do anything with that sort of strategy. Messi would struggle to succeed if utilized in this way. The ball was in the air more than it was on the ground. Sometimes it looked like a bunch of seals in the circus who were just aimlessly heading the ball back and forth. STA's keeper never distributed to her backs to start the attack with possession, choosing to just punt the ball and thus creating more 50/50 balls against a very aggressive opponent. Not the way to play LSN in my opinion. The game is called "football" for a reason. STA had target players playing distributing roles and creative distributing types playing target roles. A very puzzling strategy, and obviously one that did not work. I really don't know how anybody could enjoy such a sloppy game...unless you were focusing on LSN's players who did what they had to do. Going down 2 goals early against a Tim Richardson team is suicide. I'd like to see some stats on how many teams have ever come back from an early deficit like this vs. LSN and ended up winning. If you are a LSN fan...good luck going forward. I personally am rooting for LSN to take State and keep the trophy in Kansas City.

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#86320 - 05/18/12 08:54 AM Re: High School scores [Re: zizou]
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OFD

LFS will need to come East to play either OE or BVW. Per the state handbook, the Eastern most team from the 2 Central regions comes East and the other goes West.

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#86321 - 05/18/12 09:05 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Zebra]
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Zebra thank you for that correction. That is what I meant. I haven't seen OE play but only hear good things. BVW is a solid team with the twins.

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#86322 - 05/18/12 09:21 AM Re: High School scores [Re: footy]
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Footy, maybe I have an issue with Manhattan. I think its jealousy. I have been watching Lawrence teams struggle in the Sunflower League for to long. If they played the same teams as Manhatten they would be much more successful. More fun for the teams and the parents. Manhattan was 14-1-1. I would love to see what LHS and Free State would do against the same teams. Of course its crying over spilt milk. They play in the sunflower league and will continue to struggle.

As far as the game - Olathe East already beat Free State 5-0 during the season. Not much hope there for a Free State win. Not sure how they would do against Blue Valley West.

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#86327 - 05/18/12 10:06 AM Re: High School scores [Re: footy]
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Originally Posted By: footy
Fatdude, you really have something against Manhattan dont you. Free State is a good team but they will go west and Manhattan will play a Wichita team. They will probably host Wichita NW on Tuesday because Hutchinson lost.


you're right footy. Manhattan will drop into the South Central and host Wichita Northwest on Tue. Maize beat Wichita Heights last night 9-1. Maize will host and play Wichita North in the other South Central Quarterfinal on Tue. Free State goes to the Northeast for Quarter's.

Not too surprised Free State beat TWR. I know it took OT, but from what I've heard about Free State and the things I had heard about TWR after Wichita Northwest played them a couple of weeks ago, I knew it would be close.

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#86328 - 05/18/12 10:10 AM Re: High School scores [Re: jjflash]
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In the South Central Region, I look for Wichita Northwest to beat Manhattan this time around and Maize will beat Wichita North to move on into the Final Four.

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#86329 - 05/18/12 10:22 AM Re: High School scores [Re: jjflash]
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If SME wins today against SMW, Free State will play Olathe East and BVW would get SME in the other Quarterfinal game. I would say Olathe East and BV West are the other two teams besides Wichita Northwest and Maize to play in the Class 6A Final Four.
BVW would play Maize and OE would get Wichita Northwest in the semi's.

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#86336 - 05/18/12 12:32 PM Re: High School scores [Re: zizou]
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Sometimes when a team "plays terrible", it's a product of the other team's defense. I didn't see the whole game, but I saw LSN forwards keeping pressure on the ball with the midfield cutting off passing lanes with the coach urging them on. That forced hastier, and often lower percentage passes, or resorts to chips, and longer passes, and loss of possession.
It was a pretty big mistake on someone's part to not make sure someone (or two) remained between LSN's primary attacker, and the goal from the starting whistle too.
The better team won this one.

The Ray-Pec/LSN rematch should be a good one. Ray-Pec has strength, and speed that makes them a tough matchup for LSN, and the seniors on both teams know each other well with many having played club ball together over the years.
Last game was 2-1 decided late in the 2nd half by a LSN "Beckhamesque" free kick into the upper 90.

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#86337 - 05/18/12 12:47 PM Re: High School scores [Re: jjflash]
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Jjflash, I think tuesdays Wichita NW vs Manhattan will be a good match. Similiar to the game at Wichita NW. I heard from a few coaches who were recrutiting players from both teams say it was evenly matched game.

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#86338 - 05/18/12 12:54 PM Re: High School scores [Re: footy]
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Originally Posted By: footy
Jjflash, I think tuesdays Wichita NW vs Manhattan will be a good match. Similiar to the game at Wichita NW. I heard from a few coaches who were recrutiting players from both teams say it was evenly matched game.


It was and this one should be close again, but I think it's always hard to beat the same team twice, especially since they are so evenly matched. I think Wichita Northwest wins this rematch.

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#86350 - 05/18/12 08:00 PM Re: High School scores [Re: jjflash]
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SME 3 - SMW 2

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#86404 - 05/22/12 10:58 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Cesc]
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STA plays BVSW in the state quarterfinals at BVSW at 6 tonight. It should be a good match.

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#86407 - 05/22/12 12:35 PM Re: High School scores [Re: ozsoccer]
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Also tonight:
Missouri Sectionals
Class 3
Park Hill South at Kearney, 6:00
Ray-Pec at LSN 7:00
Class 2
Notre Dame de Sion at Van Horn, 6:00
Smithville at Savannah, 6:00
Class 1
Summit Christian at Ohara, 6:00
St. Pius X at Maryville, 5:00

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#86418 - 05/22/12 06:59 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Keep It Fun]
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Mill Valley over Bishop Miege 4-1 in the 5a state quarter final.

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#86419 - 05/22/12 08:14 PM Re: High School scores [Re: ZusiDaMan]
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Park Hill South 3 - 2 Kearney

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#86421 - 05/22/12 08:16 PM Re: High School scores [Re: bleddry]
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BVW over SME 4-0 in the 6a quarterfinal

Aquinas over BVSW 1-0 in the 5a quarterfinal

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#86423 - 05/22/12 10:48 PM Re: High School scores [Re: ZusiDaMan]
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Olathe East 4-0 over Free State

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#86428 - 05/23/12 08:24 AM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
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So does Olathe East have to play BVW or do they mix it up again for the final four. It would be nice if Maize had to play somebody before the finals huh JJ? Pretty easy path in the playoffs for Maize so far.

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#86429 - 05/23/12 09:27 AM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
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Maize plays BVW in one Semi. OE plays Wichita Northwest in the other. It appears they re-seeded the teams.
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#86430 - 05/23/12 10:55 AM Re: High School scores [Re: bleddry]
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Originally Posted By: bleddry
.....If Kearney doesn't win State, I will be shocked......

STA will take down LSN...…


It's a good thing no one's making book on these games.
Your bracket got busted.
3-2. Sounds like it was an exciting match.

Now LSN goes to PHS. What a gorgeous site atop the bluff overlooking the rivers' confluence toward the KC skyline.
PHS better figure out how to not concede twice in this one. Their outside backs had best not get too adventuresome trying to join in the attack, or they'll likely pay for it. Cracking the LSN defense is going to be tough too, but PHS has players that could exploit a mistake.
So it's not a given, but a score line similar to the Ray-Pec game would not be surprising.

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#86431 - 05/23/12 11:05 AM Re: High School scores [Re: kcjones]
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Maize plays BVW in one Semi. OE plays Wichita Northwest in the other. It appears they re-seeded the teams.


They always have played it where the #1 out of the Northeast gets the #2 out of the South Central and the #1 out of the South Central gets the #2 out of the Northeast.

Yep...ofd, now the road gets tough. Olathe East gets Wichita Northwest in the 5pm game and Maize gets BV West right after in the 7pm.

Told ya Wichita Northwest would get by Manhattan. Heard the game was a battle.

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#86432 - 05/23/12 11:09 AM Re: High School scores [Re: jjflash]
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5A semi with Bishop Carroll playing St. Thomas Aquinas should probably be the final. Round II...who wins?

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#86433 - 05/23/12 11:27 AM Re: High School scores [Re: jjflash]
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the final was played last night, BV Southwest vs Aquinas.

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#86434 - 05/23/12 12:10 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Anon.E.Mouse]
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Originally Posted By: Anon.E.Mouse
the final was played last night, BV Southwest vs Aquinas.


Ouch. That hurts a little. smile

Just as an FYI: Mill Valley played BVSW this season and beat them 1-0. Aquinas played BVSW twice this season. Both times Aquinas only won by one goal. I also heard they probably shouldn't have won last night. Aquinas is a great team...that is just what I heard from 2 people that attended and even Ewing's write up kinda says that.


Mill Valley has a few division 1 college players this season. Ya never know.....stranger things have happened. That's what makes sports so awesome....ya never know until the game is played. Anything can happen. Mill Valley will have to get past Hays first though.

Good luck to all!!

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#86436 - 05/23/12 12:50 PM Re: High School scores [Re: ZusiDaMan]
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jjflash, it was a battle. Coach B did a good job game planning for Manhattan. He moved his sweeper up top and his center mid #10 to sweeper. He had his backs take turns bang up Manhattan's #8(fast forward) and make sure she wasn't a factor in the game. Once they went up 1-0 it seemed like they sat back and played more defensively.

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#86440 - 05/23/12 06:43 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Keep It Fun]
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I got to go over and see Lees Summit North vs Raymore (my in-laws live over there) and although the final score was 3-0, it was a much closer game than the score makes it look. Yes, LSN did outplay the other team overall and deserved to win, however, the ref was being, in my opinion, extremely sensitive on calls, most of which went against Raymore, including one PK. The keeper for Raymore was very good, and was challenged. Raymore missed two excellent opportunities to score by a hair, so it was a much closer game than the score shows and Raymore should be proud of their efforts. Also, that #7 on LSN is just an awesome player and hard to defend against.
ONe thing about that game was odd = I was sitting right by the midfield, and when Raymore was charging down the field, the LSN defender just decided to pick up the ball before it left the field and the side ref was not watching, so he just let her pick it up and throw it in. Should have been called a handball b/c I saw the ball and it did not leave the field. The crowd was objecting loudly, but hey, that's reffing. Hardly ever see that sort of thing with these older kids.

I am surprised about the Kearney loss b/c of all the talk about that team and their record was real good.

meanwhile back at home: Go Topeka-Hayden!

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#86443 - 05/23/12 08:08 PM Re: High School scores [Re: topeka]
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This is from the BVSW Aquinas quarterfinal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsXLnaCsv5U&feature=youtu.be

no call

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#86444 - 05/23/12 08:53 PM Re: High School scores [Re: zekesoccer]
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Looked like a good play from the goalie to me.

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#86445 - 05/23/12 10:05 PM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
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Thats what you call getting blown up by the keeper. She was a little bit studs up, but overall a pretty good play. The keeper usually gets a no call on that one.

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#86447 - 05/24/12 06:58 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Kaka]
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Certainly a foul. If you read the write up from the first SW v Aquinas game the GK got a red card for taking out a player. It seems they're taught to do this when they feel vulnerable to a goal.

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#86450 - 05/24/12 08:05 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Wilson]
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Looks good to me....slow it down and watch it. keeper comes in front leg in front of ball on last step to try and try and trap, doesn't slow down her run and makes contact with the attacking player , as the attacking player is trying to move herself and the ball closer to the end line to avoid the incoming keeper. Normal speed it kind of looks like a slide tackle, but even if it was, it was initiated from behind and the keepers foot placement demonstrates that her intent was to win the ball, and in fact made contact with the ball before the tackle. Bad keeper technique..Yes ..no question all day...kind dangerous...sure, but that is the dangers of high school ball. The crazy mix of properly trained, and not trained players all on the same field. Heck having watched a lot of high school ball this year, I don't actually blame the keeper if this is how she has adjusted her technique for high school ball. How many times have we all watched a keeper go down for a 1 on 1 only to be pretty much trampled by a reckless on coming striker. That is how a lot of preventable concussions happen for female keepers in high school ball. Recklessly charging attackers. Sometimes it resembles a base runner charging into the catcher at home plate, shoulder down and everything.

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#86451 - 05/24/12 08:18 AM Re: High School scores [Re: bleddry]
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I am the BVSW coach so I am biased on this. I believe it was a PK but i dont believe for a second that the Aquinas gker was taught to foul as a previous post indicated.

its a physical game and refs miss calls (or get them right depending on your perspective). The Aquinas gker coach is a good coach who has made their keepers better as the season has unfolded. No way she teaches the gker to foul. the consequences (red card) are too severe to do that.

just my opinion.

Jason Pendleton
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#86452 - 05/24/12 08:30 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Anon.E.Mouse]
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Originally Posted By: Anon.E.Mouse
the final was played last night, BV Southwest vs Aquinas.


Actually I think it was played a couple of weeks ago in Wichita when Aquinas played Bishop Carroll and that game went into OT with Aquinas winning 1-0.

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#86453 - 05/24/12 08:31 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Sisepuede]
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Ok whats the foul, what rule is broken here? I give you huge Kuddos Jason for coming on here to post. Huge...but point to me to the law of the game that says that is a foul of any kind?

You could argue that she has to keep her body under control as she challenges..I would argue that as she came in to plant her foot in front of the ball to trap it , the attacker was making a move towards the end line. If you look how they both ended up on the ground, it's pretty clear, the keeper thought the attacker was going to moving in one direction and the attacker was moving the other way.

She didn't come in cleats up, so no dangerous play, and the contact was not initiated from behind the player, last time I checked both players have the same right to the ball, and if the keeper is moving one way, and the attacker another way, both going after the ball, who do you give advantage too? There is no clear advantage.....the attacker had just shed a defender, who did her job and slowed the attacker down and the keeper was simply coming out and attacking the ball...(Very bad technique mind you)

Once again respect the crap out of you and your team, and for coming on here to post...but really..whats the call?

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#86454 - 05/24/12 08:41 AM Re: High School scores [Re: bleddry]
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game is over. STA won. We need to get better so this does not impact us in the future. We had chances and did not convert.

i think gker gets my kid first, BUT it doesnt matter. Its obviously a call the ref saw differently than I did.

Smarter people than me can argue foul or not. Just remember these are kids (both teams) and they play hard and lets not question the integrity of coaches and players' actions.

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#86455 - 05/24/12 08:50 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Sisepuede]
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Oh not questioning them at all. I wish more coaches had the guts to come on here and open a dialog with some of us who could use the education from those on the front line. we don't get enough of that. You are a good coach, with a good team and they played great this year..I don't have a dog in the fight, I just appreciate the opposing views of different people and think dialog on the subject is the best way a lot of us will learn about the intricacies of the game.

Keep up the good work and please stay active on the board here. Let me pose a question to you, as a high school coach, whats the one thing you think would improve the relationship between club and high school coaches in the area? Do you think improved communication could help both coaches plan and scheme for there upcoming seasons with a better understanding of the players they are going to have at there disposal, nagging injuries and the such?

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#86457 - 05/24/12 11:29 AM Re: High School scores [Re: topeka]
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Originally Posted By: topeka
I

I am surprised about the Kearney loss b/c of all the talk about that team and their record was real good.



Talk is talk. PHS has a pretty good record, too.

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#86458 - 05/24/12 11:32 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Keep It Fun]
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Originally Posted By: Keep It Fun
Originally Posted By: bleddry
.....If Kearney doesn't win State, I will be shocked......

STA will take down LSN...…


It's a good thing no one's making book on these games.
Your bracket got busted.
3-2. Sounds like it was an exciting match.

Now LSN goes to PHS. What a gorgeous site atop the bluff overlooking the rivers' confluence toward the KC skyline.
PHS better figure out how to not concede twice in this one. Their outside backs had best not get too adventuresome trying to join in the attack, or they'll likely pay for it. Cracking the LSN defense is going to be tough too, but PHS has players that could exploit a mistake.
So it's not a given, but a score line similar to the Ray-Pec game would not be surprising.


It was an exciting game, although the two Kearney goals were on mistakes that could have cost the game. I let my daughter read your defensive advice. wink

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#86459 - 05/24/12 12:03 PM Re: High School scores [Re: bleddry]
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The key points to remember in judging a tackle are presented by the USSF in the acronym "SIAPOA". Take a look at this link: http://www.ussoccer.com/News/Referee-Pro...aspx?print=true

Reading the criteria and watching the video - I think we can easily rule out a red card.

Now - the question is...was it a reckless (yellow card) tackle, OR a simple foul tackle, or a clean tackle? This is trickier to discern.

Speed? - For HS girls...yes. The GK approached at full pace, with no effort to control her momentum.
Intent? - Maybe. GK has eyes on the ball the entire time, but comes at such speed she may be "sending a message". Not enough in the clip to tell, you need match temperature for this.
Aggressive Nature? - No. Cleats down, GK doesn't leave her feet in advance of the tackle, no straight leg "spear".
Position? - This is an issue. The GK clearly comes in from the side, but is unable to get sufficient position to reach the ball without going through the player.
Opportunity? - Good, no problem. The GK does get the ball first, and is approaching from a position to the side which allows the attacker to see her coming.
Atmosphere? - Not evident. I can't tell from the video if there were earlier situations in the match involving this keeper or the attacker that might influence this call.

As a last consideration, there is the argument that in order to "get the ball first" (which she certainly did), the GK had to "take out" the player. USSF has recently released a Position Paper on this: http://www.massref.net/ussfpositionpapers/GotTheBall.pdf

So - in my opinion, we have some elements of SIAPOA - Speed of the Tackle, and Position of the Tackler. The GKs tackle does "Get the ball first" but she also fails to get a clean position for the tackle, which in combination with her high speed, results in the attacker being completely upended by the GKs trailing leg and body.

So - in summary - IMO, this does not appear to be a case of "over the outstretched leg" which we often see in fair slide tackles such as this one: (http://www.ussoccer.com/news/referee-programs/2010/08/2010-referee-week-in-review-19.aspx).

In this case, it looks to me that the attacker is upended NOT by her forward momentum over the leg, but by the GK's body as it goes through the attackers legs due to her uncontrolled momentum.

Therefore - with respect to the center in the match who may have had additional information regarding the play or players which would have impacted his/her decision, and who may have had a significantly different angle on this play which would certainly influence this call which was obviously a tough one - I'd say this was a foul, and possibly, a reckless (cautionable) foul.

Determining careless and reckless should be informed by the Interpretation of the Laws of the Game (pg 108):

“Careless” means that the player has shown a lack of attention or
consideration when making a challenge or that he acted without
precaution.

“Reckless” means that the player has acted with complete disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent

I don't feel that the brief video really gives us enough information on the match temperature to judge whether the keeper or the game needed a yellow on this foul. It's possible that a PK and a stern talking to would be sufficient.

It is worth noting that all players are responsible for the safety of their opponents! An action does not have to be "on purpose" in order to be a foul. Sloppy technique like the keeper showed here can injure players and can't be excused simply because it is "on accident".

And lastly - please keep in mind that we are all able to watch this sequence, in slow motion, multiple times, to be certain of the situation which we know is about to happen. The fact that the play is even being discussed shows that it wasn't a straight forward call - and I give much respect to the opinion of the referee on the field who must make this call at speed, while running, and keeping track of 20 other players.

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#86462 - 05/24/12 01:41 PM Re: High School scores [Re: bleddry]
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Good question concerning the club and HS coaches. I have met with TB from KCFC and the BVSC directors and discussed my program and got their feedback on their kids who were going to play for me. Other coaches I know go to club games and watch and also talk with a few coaches. Derek Shoare who coaches the Dynamos does a great job with HS coaches. He calls the HS coach for each of his players and is at alot of HS games.

The problem from my perspective is many of the club guys think all HS coaches are clueless and many of the HS guys think many of the club guys are clueless.

I want what is best for my high school kids and that means the club experience has to be good and I want club guys to know that when their players return from me that they will be fit and ready to play tactically sound soccer.

So basically communication is the key. We should be working together not against each other.

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#86466 - 05/24/12 03:13 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Sisepuede]
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Who wins 6A consolation game between Wichita Northwest and Maize on Saturday ???

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#86486 - 05/25/12 10:57 AM Re: High School scores [Re: proudsoccermom]
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Originally Posted By: proudsoccermom
Originally Posted By: Keep It Fun
Originally Posted By: bleddry
.....If Kearney doesn't win State, I will be shocked......

STA will take down LSN...…


It's a good thing no one's making book on these games.
Your bracket got busted.
3-2. Sounds like it was an exciting match.

Now LSN goes to PHS. What a gorgeous site atop the bluff overlooking the rivers' confluence toward the KC skyline.
PHS better figure out how to not concede twice in this one. Their outside backs had best not get too adventuresome trying to join in the attack, or they'll likely pay for it. Cracking the LSN defense is going to be tough too, but PHS has players that could exploit a mistake.
So it's not a given, but a score line similar to the Ray-Pec game would not be surprising.


It was an exciting game, although the two Kearney goals were on mistakes that could have cost the game. I let my daughter read your defensive advice. wink


keep is a smart chap, but i wanna share some thougts for your girl, soccermom

in the STA v LSN game, the outside backs didnt cause STA problem

first LSN goal, poor overconfident pass from the STA center back to the outside back went right to LSN stud forward as she was moving to goal. LSN stud was handed 1 on 1 with goalie. easy score. 1:30 into game

a minute later same center back called off the goalie with stud forward coming in fast. by time both figure out it was bad decision...goal number 2

hand a chance like that to any stud, he or she will put both in the net. LSN stud didnt disappoint. but it was her hustle, not skill and some bad decisions to seal STA fate

on the offense, when STA pressed on offense, LSN defence sent ball long over top of STA midfield and STA defenders. STA passes in midefield were panicky, right to LSN defender alot. defender would cleared it long (smart by TR). Other STA passes were into space with no player and LSN defender was there to cover. STA outside defenders didnt have many chances to press in first half.

there was a string of 9-10 headballs in a row by STA players. one of the dads yelled, for god's sake, pass it to feet. it was ugly, but again i share because PHS cant win that way. LSN too deep and they try to win 50/50 balls. STA let them win 'em. PHS cant afford that, cause LSN attacks with players. STA relied on same style i saw earlier...dribble, dribble, dribble by one player. and she was all over the field. Messed up shaped. very few off ball runs by STA players. LSN attacked as a team.

STA outside backs did get forward more in second half - up as far as forwards and it created some chances. but it happened cuaz STA outside starting mids and forwards didnt get wide. STA replacement outside mid got wide and got some chances then STA outside back stayed home. LSN forwards camped on center line not followin' STA defenders in. That way long-ball clear put STA at risk It was a speed issue. STA faster backs were the outside ones. typical. So if they got into attack with no mid cover, it left slower center backs to cover fast forwards. 2 v 2. classic mismatch. didnt get LSN another goal. but it busted up STA attack. wore them out

PHS coach should man-mark LSN stud. STA did not. Not smart. STA played LSN twice and LSN stud scored in both other games. at least thats what kc star said.

PHS should tell all of the defence to cover each other out. if wide back gets into attack, outside mid has to cover on defence. most coaches miss that and dont call out the mids who dont cover

i saw PHS play Raytown a few weeks ago. Got to put chances into the net. LSN wont give them many. Goalie is D1 bound and shes tall and athletic.

may best team win

also, was out of town for PHS - Kearney. would love a play-by-play. Kaka?

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#86487 - 05/25/12 11:13 AM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
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If you saw the second game of the season at PHS against Raytown, you saw an embarrassing game. Ridiculous number of opportunities blown for sure.

I didn't see Kaka at the PHS/Kearney game, but the crowd was big and I may have missed him.

I will also share your pearls of wisdom. No matter the outcome, it has been a fun ride.

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#86493 - 05/25/12 01:13 PM Re: High School scores [Re: proudsoccermom]
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Originally Posted By: proudsoccermom
If you saw the second game of the season at PHS against Raytown, you saw an embarrassing game. Ridiculous number of opportunities blown for sure.

I didn't see Kaka at the PHS/Kearney game, but the crowd was big and I may have missed him.

I will also share your pearls of wisdom. No matter the outcome, it has been a fun ride.


yip. i was talking about second game

wasnt slighting you. if you could recap the PHS/Kearney game, i'd luv to hear your view

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#86494 - 05/25/12 01:19 PM Re: High School scores [Re: hindsight2020]
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Predictions in Kansas State tournament?

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#86495 - 05/25/12 01:32 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Anon.E.Mouse]
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OE will beat Wichita NW 7-0.

Maize will upset BVW 2-1

OE beats Maize 2-0.

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#86496 - 05/25/12 01:45 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Anon.E.Mouse]
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OE v BVW in finals

Would love to see two 20-0 teams play for finals though.

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#86500 - 05/25/12 03:58 PM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
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I'm agreeing with OFD on this one except that I predict that OE beats Maize by more than 2...more like 5-1 or 4-0.

update: Yep I can admit it when I'm wrong--BVW ran to the ball and was up 3-0 at the half, and those black jerseys just looked like they wanted it more than Maize.

However, I wasn't wrong about OE--I still say that OE will win state by the same score spread mentioned above over BVW.


Edited by skiddie (05/25/12 09:39 PM)

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#86512 - 05/25/12 09:03 PM Re: High School scores [Re: skiddie]
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St Thomas Aquinas 1-0 over Wichita. BVW killed Maize

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#86515 - 05/25/12 10:15 PM Re: High School scores [Re: zidane5]
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Wichita area teams did not do anything to combat the perpective that the best soccer is played in the east.

BVW 7-0 over Maize

Olathe East 8-1 over Wichita NW.

By the way JJ little old 3-13 LHS lost to BVW 8-1 I think. I can't believe I fell for the hype and picked Maize to upset them.

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#86520 - 05/25/12 11:12 PM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
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Mill Valley over Hays 5-0 in the semi's. They play Aquinas at 2pm tomorrow for the Championship. I'm proud of them for getting here. It's their first time. Go Jags.

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#86524 - 05/26/12 04:58 PM Re: High School scores [Re: ZusiDaMan]
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Aquinas over Mill Valley 4-1. Congrats to Mill Valley for a first final and to STA for yet another championship!

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#86525 - 05/26/12 04:59 PM Re: High School scores [Re: ZusiDaMan]
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OE 5 BVW 4
7 minutes into OT

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#86526 - 05/26/12 05:21 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Zebra]
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Originally Posted By: Zebra
OE 5 BVW 4
7 minutes into OT


WOW... good game?

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#86527 - 05/26/12 05:42 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Anon.E.Mouse]
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OE 21-0-0 the best team in the state won

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#86528 - 05/26/12 06:09 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Pete and Delmar]
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Congrats to Aquinas on yet another championship. Well deserved. A great group of girls.

So proud of the Mill Valley girls for making it to the final. Hopefully, the first of many for that school. Way to send off my senior, Jags. Thanks for the most fun year of my daughter's soccer career. Now off to college ball for her and hopefully more good times ahead.

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#86539 - 05/27/12 04:55 PM Re: High School scores [Re: ZusiDaMan]
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OE - BVW game was fun to watch. A donnybrook just like the backs of the OE girls' t-shirts said. Amazing to witness all the fan support coming from SMNW, SMW, OS, ONW, BV, BVNW and even former BVW people all in favor of OE. Not naive enough to think they were all fans of OE, but rather did not want BVW to win.

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#86547 - 05/27/12 10:18 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Pete and Delmar]
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Originally Posted By: Pete and Delmar
OE - BVW game was fun to watch. A donnybrook just like the backs of the OE girls' t-shirts said. Amazing to witness all the fan support coming from SMNW, SMW, OS, ONW, BV, BVNW and even former BVW people all in favor of OE. Not naive enough to think they were all fans of OE, but rather did not want BVW to win.


Metro Sports showed video of a BVW player blatantly tripping an OE forward who was sprinting toward the goal with the ball, a BVW player throwing an OE player to the ground and other similar questionable plays. This may explain the OE support coming from other schools. Even so, there was a lot of good soccer played by both schools.

The center ref failed to control the match. Whoever selected the center ref for the championship match should be embarrassed. It was fortunate that no one on either team was seriously injured. Fans of both schools were upset with the referee for failing to make necessary calls and for making inexplicable calls. While I never expect referees to be perfect or to agree with my opinion of the appropriate calls, I do expect competent refereeing at the state championship match between two nationally ranked teams.

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#86556 - 05/28/12 09:09 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Jambalaya]
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I personally don't think the majority of the KC Metro rooting for OE in this match had much to do with the BVW players. A lot of schools have the same "competitive spirit" the BVW players do. I think people pretty much always root against BVW because of their coach. He seems to be a polarizing figure in the KC soccer community. Either people respect him for what he is able to do with his team or they dislike him for how he gets there. Usually, it's the latter. Apparently, a lot of toes have been stepped on along his path to success. Just ask his players. (And the ones he dumped.) Also, his arrogance and the open bias towards his daughters on the field have been a point of contention. I'm not saying he is a bad coach or a bad person...I don't even know the guy. (And Lord knows I have my own list of not so good stuff.) I have no connection to him at all. I'm just addressing what has been talked about for years and why I believe no one ever roots for BVW. I had orginally thought people rooted against them just because they have a history of success and it becomes annoying to others (similar to how some feel about Aquinas), but I do not believe that is the case because if it were...why do people still root for OE? The coaches have a lot to do with it.

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#86559 - 05/28/12 09:59 AM Re: High School scores [Re: ZusiDaMan]
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Originally Posted By: ZusiDaMan
I personally don't think the majority of the KC Metro rooting for OE in this match had much to do with the BVW players. A lot of schools have the same "competitive spirit" the BVW players do. I think people pretty much always root against BVW because of their coach.


You may be right about that, but I don't think OE's coach has won any popularity contests either, at least not with the refs. Watch the video on Metro Sports On Demand and see what you think. After watching the video clips of the game on Metro Sports On Demand, my perception was that the video showed something less noble than "competitive spirit" in soccer. I will admit that one of the questionable plays would have been perfectly acceptable in American Football where there is a different definition of the word "tackle". You may see the video and draw a different conclusion.

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#86566 - 05/28/12 01:10 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Jambalaya]
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"the open bias towards his daughters"... name one parent, coach or otherwise, who does not have an open bias toward his/her children... seriously?

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#86567 - 05/28/12 01:52 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Anon.E.Mouse]
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IMO, that is exactly why he shouldn't have been their coach in a public school setting. Of course a parent would have a bias towards their own children. However, he is the coach and that bias affects other players on his team. Those other players didn't get to choose to go to BVW (well most anyway)..that is their home school and they are forced to tolerate it. He chose to bring his daughters there to coach them, as that is not their home school. I have no personal beef with the guy. I'm stating what many just think. It's a none issue now, as both have graduated. But it was one reason why some didn't root for BVW.

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#86602 - 05/29/12 09:16 AM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
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Originally Posted By: oldfatdude
Wichita area teams did not do anything to combat the perpective that the best soccer is played in the east.

BVW 7-0 over Maize

Olathe East 8-1 over Wichita NW.

By the way JJ little old 3-13 LHS lost to BVW 8-1 I think. I can't believe I fell for the hype and picked Maize to upset them.


Smoke and mirror's baby...smoke and mirror's! Thanks ofd, for your support up until the point of getting pounded by BVW. The reality is...Maize needs to schedule quality games during the regular season. Who cares if you lose a few. Maize could get seeded 5th in their regional and still come out of there easily as the front runner. It's not about going 19-0-0 and pounding everyone on the West half of the State. Not until they(Maize) play quality opponents from the Northeast, before State, will they ever stand a chance. Thanks again for your support...hahaha!

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#86605 - 05/29/12 11:26 AM Re: High School scores [Re: jjflash]
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JJ at 19-0 Maize had a quality team and was probably a ton of fun for you to watch. In the end if your kid had a fun season thats what its all about. I know BVW is good but of all the teams that beat down LHS this year, I really wasn't that impressed with them. They played OE tough so it must just be my warped one game perspective.

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#86614 - 05/29/12 01:54 PM Re: High School scores [Re: oldfatdude]
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JJ at 19-0 Maize had a quality team and was probably a ton of fun for you to watch. In the end if your kid had a fun season thats what its all about. I know BVW is good but of all the teams that beat down LHS this year, I really wasn't that impressed with them. They played OE tough so it must just be my warped one game perspective.


I think Maize was alittle better than getting pounded 7-0. Maybe 5-2 or something along that line...hahaha. No seriously though, what makes it so tough on Maize is, their keeper hardly see's any action during the 16 regular season and 3 regional games and then all the sudden is expected to perform at a high level seeing shots and crosses coming in...it definitely hurts. Not taking away anything from BVW, because they are definitely a fine team, but Maize does it every year coming into State. I think they need to get over the mental block and just go out and play. They have nothing to lose. Pressure's on those dominant schools from the NE. If Maize would face some teams like BVW during the regular season, then maybe they would fair alittle better when it came State time. It would at least give them a better chance. Maize is young and more likely than not they'll be back next year in the Final Four. We'll see.

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#86620 - 05/29/12 02:52 PM Re: High School scores [Re: jjflash]
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http://www.kcmetrosports.com/Video-MS.aspx?FileName=BlueValleyWestOlatheEastGirlsSoccerHilites.flv

Link to Metro Sports highlites of KS 6A final.

Of the fouls shown only one was carded.

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#86628 - 05/29/12 07:52 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Zebra]
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Originally Posted By: Zebra
http://www.kcmetrosports.com/Video-MS.aspx?FileName=BlueValleyWestOlatheEastGirlsSoccerHilites.flv

Link to Metro Sports highlites of KS 6A final.

Of the fouls shown only one was carded.


pretty biased reporting if you ask me. From the video, Olathe East, a traditionally physical team, had no fouls? If those are the only highlights they show, it is definitely one sided.

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#86647 - 05/30/12 09:00 AM Re: High School scores [Re: Zebra]
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Originally Posted By: Zebra
http://www.kcmetrosports.com/Video-MS.aspx?FileName=BlueValleyWestOlatheEastGirlsSoccerHilites.flv

Link to Metro Sports highlites of KS 6A final.

Of the fouls shown only one was carded.


In my opinion, the officiating for the whole tournament was pretty poor, especially in this game. Center ref was clueless and let things go to the point of frustration by both teams.

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#86658 - 05/30/12 11:51 AM Re: High School scores [Re: jjflash]
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"Judge not lest ye be judged."
That is just something referees have to accept as part of the job.
I've only seen one match in over 40 years that I'd consider officiated flawlessly.
If people didn't cheat, we wouldn't need rules, and those that enforce them.
Frustration, and dealing with it is part of the game. Isn't it frustrating when someone keeps getting in your way when all you're trying to do is kick the ball into the net thing?
So some calls were missed, and there were some bodies flying around. That too is part of the game. When asked afterwards about being sent flying through the air and crashing, one of mine would say, "That was fun."
Those are tough, strong young ladies out there. They can take it more than some might think.
Was anyone seriously injured? Were there any fights, or mass confrontations?
And then,
Was the result fair? Was it exciting?
Sounds like it was a great battle to me. You loved it, and you know it.

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#86669 - 05/30/12 01:38 PM Re: High School scores [Re: jjflash]
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Originally Posted By: jjflash
Originally Posted By: Zebra
http://www.kcmetrosports.com/Video-MS.aspx?FileName=BlueValleyWestOlatheEastGirlsSoccerHilites.flv

Link to Metro Sports highlites of KS 6A final.

Of the fouls shown only one was carded.


In my opinion, the officiating for the whole tournament was pretty poor, especially in this game. Center ref was clueless and let things go to the point of frustration by both teams.


Jeez, JJ. The whole tournament? I would hate to be a referee to begin with, but to be one in a game you are watching? WOA!!! In an 8-0 or 7-1 semifinal, or even a 4-0 consolation match, I wouldn't even be able to tell you if the referee was actually calling the game or not. Apparently, the only calls you agree with are the whistles that begin and end each half of the game. Do you have specifics as what made you conclude that the WHOLE tournament was poorly officiated?

My point was not the officiating but rather the bias Metro Sports used in their coverage. To display fouls only by one team while making the other seem as if they were 'angels" is poor reporting. More than likely, it is a reflection of one of their sportscasters who just happens to be an OE parent.

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#86670 - 05/30/12 01:45 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Anon.E.Mouse]
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Originally Posted By: Anon.E.Mouse
Originally Posted By: jjflash
Originally Posted By: Zebra
http://www.kcmetrosports.com/Video-MS.aspx?FileName=BlueValleyWestOlatheEastGirlsSoccerHilites.flv

Link to Metro Sports highlites of KS 6A final.

Of the fouls shown only one was carded.


In my opinion, the officiating for the whole tournament was pretty poor, especially in this game. Center ref was clueless and let things go to the point of frustration by both teams.


Jeez, JJ. The whole tournament? I would hate to be a referee to begin with, but to be one in a game you are watching? WOA!!! In an 8-0 or 7-1 semifinal, or even a 4-0 consolation match, I wouldn't even be able to tell you if the referee was actually calling the game or not. Apparently, the only calls you agree with are the whistles that begin and end each half of the game. Do you have specifics as what made you conclude that the WHOLE tournament was poorly officiated?

My point was not the officiating but rather the bias Metro Sports used in their coverage. To display fouls only by one team while making the other seem as if they were 'angels" is poor reporting. More than likely, it is a reflection of one of their sportscasters who just happens to be an OE parent.


heya Mouse! ya justs soundz likes a soar loser. i sayz quits y u a head. ol' paulie allwayz say showz sum dignitee. ha!!

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#86671 - 05/30/12 02:21 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Anon.E.Mouse]
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Originally Posted By: Anon.E.Mouse
Originally Posted By: jjflash
Originally Posted By: Zebra
http://www.kcmetrosports.com/Video-MS.aspx?FileName=BlueValleyWestOlatheEastGirlsSoccerHilites.flv

Link to Metro Sports highlites of KS 6A final.

Of the fouls shown only one was carded.


In my opinion, the officiating for the whole tournament was pretty poor, especially in this game. Center ref was clueless and let things go to the point of frustration by both teams.


Jeez, JJ. The whole tournament? I would hate to be a referee to begin with, but to be one in a game you are watching? WOA!!! In an 8-0 or 7-1 semifinal, or even a 4-0 consolation match, I wouldn't even be able to tell you if the referee was actually calling the game or not. Apparently, the only calls you agree with are the whistles that begin and end each half of the game. Do you have specifics as what made you conclude that the WHOLE tournament was poorly officiated?

My point was not the officiating but rather the bias Metro Sports used in their coverage. To display fouls only by one team while making the other seem as if they were 'angels" is poor reporting. More than likely, it is a reflection of one of their sportscasters who just happens to be an OE parent.


Woah...Mouse, you a ref or something? I've officiated before and I know it can be a difficult task, especially depending upon the age level and speed of the game, but tell me, were you at any of these games? I watched them all at 6A State and again this is my opinion, but these officials would get a low grade overall. Between blown calls, missed calls and bogus calls...not good my man or woman.

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#86673 - 05/30/12 02:51 PM Re: High School scores [Re: jjflash]
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blown calls in a 8-0 or 7-1 game amount to what? I'm not a referee nor am I arguing about whether the officiating was good or bad. I wouldn't think it would be much of a point in an spread of 7 goals. As for the final, that's a different story.

Once again, I was not there and therefore relied on highlights to give me an idea what the game was like. To show fouls only committed by one team, is not describing much of the game, but rather shows biased reporting. I'm for neither team, I just wanted to see a fair assessment of the game.

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#86678 - 05/30/12 04:21 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Anon.E.Mouse]
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What if one team actually tried to play soccer while the other team tried to turn the match into an ugly, brutal, match more resembling rugby than soccer? I don't have a dog in this fight either, but the 4-5 fouls on the highlight reel were ridiculous. Not a good showing for a State Championship match. BVW lucky to have not been down to 8 players during the match just based on the video. Maybe the same kind of fouls were being committed by OE? I don't know. Biased reporting? Who knows. Would love to hear from somebody that was actually there. Were both teams going MMA on each other? If so, then what a ridiculous display of soccer it must have been. I did see the BVW semi match on MetroSports and there were some WWF tactics utilized in that match also. Particularly one play where the big BVN defender, clearly out of control, went flying into the SME player after merely clearing a ball up the field. Very reckless, out of control, but very dangerous play. No reason for it unless the kids actually have no control over their bodies. How about trying to play the beautiful game in a beautiful way? Maybe not in these parts? And we wonder why so many girls in the US get hurt playing soccer?

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#86680 - 05/30/12 04:23 PM Re: High School scores [Re: zizou]
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"big BVN defender" - typo BVW defender.

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#86681 - 05/30/12 04:38 PM Re: High School scores [Re: zizou]
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Originally Posted By: zizou
Maybe the same kind of fouls were being committed by OE? I don't know.


my point exactly!

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#86682 - 05/30/12 04:40 PM Re: High School scores [Re: zizou]
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Total number of fouls were about even. BVW set up 3 scores on direct kicks and OE had a PK. BVW player received a soft red (two yellow high school rule) and was booted but BVW did not have to play down a girl. Both of the fouls were in the highlites. The difference was that BVW fouls were more physical and thus ended up on TV.

If the ref called everything there would have been only 30 minutes of the ball actually being in play. The rest of the time would have been ceremonial restarts.

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#86683 - 05/30/12 04:43 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Zebra]
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If the ref called everything there would have been only 30 minutes of the ball actually being in play. The rest of the time would have been ceremonial restarts. [/quote]

Sounds brutal.

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#86692 - 05/30/12 11:25 PM Re: High School scores [Re: zizou]
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I saw the game. The BVW fouls were of a different character. But it wasn't the whole team - just two or three girls. I appreciate that Metro Sports exposed the tactics. If BVW doesn't like what the video shows then it should play soccer, not professional wrestling with a ball. Don't pretend to be a victim. Just be glad you don't have to live with a career ending injury on your conscience. Despite the criticism, there was much good soccer played. Both teams had great seasons. It's just that no one likes to see some of the "tactics" that were displayed. The irony is those tactics may have cost BVW the game.

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#86716 - 05/31/12 04:48 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Observer]
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Has Mo high school finals been determined yet?

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#86728 - 05/31/12 07:06 PM Re: High School scores [Re: Mia Hamm]
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Mia-
MO final four in each class has been determined, the semis/finals are June 1-2.
KC area teams:
Class 3-Lee's Summit North
Class 2-Smithville
Class 1-St.Pius X
Games are all at Blue Springs/Blue Springs South.

http://www.mshsaa.org/GirlsSoccerChampInfoCentral.aspx
the link also has the brackets for each class

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#86775 - 06/01/12 09:00 PM Re: High School scores [Re: CoachPlayRefNLS]
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LSN advances to final with win over St. Joseph's Academy 3-0.

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