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#39149 - 11/30/07 07:44 AM Re: Soccer as a Vehicle for Learning Life Lessons [Re: Keep It Fun]
ballbooger Offline
newbie

Registered: 04/20/07
Posts: 33
New light glisten’s gently, gently,
Off the morning glass.
Reflecting back the early hour.
From the due on bent fall grass.
Across the field I see my child,
The hope that’s in their eye’s,
But slowly it all fades away
And dreams begin to die.
Their coach has said,
“Were all but done.
We should just pack and leave.
The Legends and their ball wizards.
Are rolling up their sleeves.”
“I know they dance, and twirl and spin,
All we can do is watch.
You guys I guess go out and stand,
I’ll count down the clock.”
True to their game,as the whistle blew
Skills were on display.
Their expertise in trickery
They came to show that day.
Not 1 or two but 10 touches from
The player with the ball.
But sadly friends, I must report.
This player did not move at all.
They juked and jeered,
and stepped and pulled.
But did not move and inch.
After about a minute their
Came loud praise from the bench.
“Well done, that’s it , That’s soccer friends
This is what the Legends teach”
He forgot to mention that every opponent
Was still way out of reach.
Their coach was right in what he said.
The standing did the job.
When they looked for approval to attack
He simply gave a nod.
Sad to report, the Legends scored.
The opponents all fell to the grass.
But this was due to laughing.
When the Legends were asked to pass.

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#39151 - 11/30/07 09:17 AM Re: Soccer as a Vehicle for Learning Life Lessons [Re: ballbooger]
Keep It Fun Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 06/25/05
Posts: 2404
Loc: Kansas City, MO
Is it just a coincidence that the author's name is
"booger"?

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#39161 - 11/30/07 08:08 PM Re: Soccer as a Vehicle for Learning Life Lessons [Re: ballbooger]
AndyBarney Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 06/14/06
Posts: 1688
WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A LEGEND (BOYS VERSION)

When a player is young to the world’s greatest game
He dreams of great goals and eventual fame

At first soccer’s fun with the fakes and the moves
And his self concept grows as he deepens the grooves

His Scissors, his Cruyff’s, his Maradona Turns
Make “Bambi On Ice” of defenders he burns

Within a few years his shot is a rocket
And he’s got their defense deep in his back pocket

He can fake, dribble, shoot or play a quick pass
And all who dare face him are soon on the grass

He’s feisty, a leader, an offensive king
He’s a great entertainer, he makes the crowd sing

His confidence is Legendary, his skills are supreme
He finds all the cracks and exploits every seam

He fakes out defenses and bears down on goal
He makes frightened goalies pray for their soul

With a feint and a wriggle he confuses the back
Who, late to the tackle, brings him down with a hack

Quick with the whistle the ref’ makes the call
Quaking with fear they line up their wall

With a wink at his girlfriend and an internal grin
He shoots a banana and bends it right in

After his hat trick he humbly acknowledges
The praise of the masses and the attention from colleges

And when in the classroom he works for the grades
Because dumb is forever, yet smart never fades

As a true Legend he lives with great pride
With the will, guts and heart that come from inside

And he never forgets that the true Legend's test
Is to learn from each moment and just do his best!

WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A LEGEND (GIRLS VERSION)

When a player is young to the world’s greatest game
She dreams of great goals and eventual fame

At first soccer’s fun with the fakes and the moves
And her self concept grows as she deepens the grooves

Her Scissors, her Cruyff’s, her Maradona Turns
Make “Bambi On Ice” of defenders she burns

Within a few years her shot is a rocket
And she’s got their defense deep in her back pocket

She can fake, dribble, shoot or play a quick pass
And all who dare face her are soon on the grass

She’s feisty, a leader, an offensive queen
She’s a great entertainer, best the crowd’s seen

Her confidence is Legendary, her skills are supreme
She finds all the cracks and exploits every seam

She fakes out defenses and bears down on goal
She makes frightened goalies pray for their soul

With a feint and a wriggle she confuses the back
Who, late to the tackle, brings her down with a hack

Quick with the whistle the ref’ makes the call
Quaking with fear they line up their wall

With a wink at her boyfriend and an internal grin
She shoots a banana and bends it right in

After her hat trick she humbly acknowledges
The praise of the masses and the attention from colleges

And when in the classroom she works for good grades
Because dumb is forever, yet smart never fades

As a true Legend she lives with great pride
With the will, guts and heart that come from inside

And she never forgets that the true Legend's test
Is to learn from each moment and just do her best!

\:\) Andy

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#39162 - 11/30/07 09:18 PM Re: Soccer as a Vehicle for Learning Life Lessons [Re: AndyBarney]
JimB Offline
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Registered: 08/23/05
Posts: 454

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#39163 - 11/30/07 09:19 PM Re: Soccer as a Vehicle for Learning Life Lessons [Re: AndyBarney]
Skeech Offline
old hand

Registered: 06/30/05
Posts: 739
Loc: Where Seldom Is Heard...A Disc...
Andy - my 500th post,

You have been a historic figure in youth soccer in the KC Metro area - thank you for being a part of bringing soccer, the game, to a new level of recognition in the area. Also, I think it's important that you step outside the "Legends Philosophy" and realize that everything the "legends" offers, all other clubs offer as well - Considering that Every other youth sport in this nation is totally and completely capable of and DOES offer our children these very same benefits - I've lived it and seen it! It is really not by any stretch of the imagination, exclusive to the Legends Philosophy.

I love it that you cherish, encourage, preach & train the youth around you to embrace these life long values (especially the risk element) - But, from my standpoint, you need to understand - so does everyone else!!
These are the values which I quote you and refer to:

"Many of these character attributes are very different from the traditional benefits of team sports, e.g. risk orientation, willingness to embrace ambiguity, paradox, and uncertainty, balance of science and art, logic and imagination, emotional intelligence. Many are already commonly accepted e.g. teamwork, work ethic, rule adherence, organization of time, commitment, recovery from negative events, conflict resolution etc etc."

Actually, NONE of these characteristics are Very Different from ANY team sport in town - I’ve seen All of the above characteristics taught and brought out of players in Kansas sports for a long time, this is not breaking news( and to be quite honest, most brought out by non paid coaching).. The sports our family is involved in include - soccer, basketball, baseball, football, golf, cheerleading, tennis, volleyball. The STATE OF KANSAS is rich in values, especially values concerning children - some of the BEST schools in the NATION, some of the BEST parenting and a lot of great PARENTS who coach and teach for the fulfillment, anticipation of the next generation and joy of the sport, much like you, in A Wide Array of Sports - With the ultimate goal of being some sort of inspiration for our children's future! All excellent reasons to train youth.

It's more a midwest way of living and a lot of giving by a lot of folks who care deeply - it's not a Legends Approach to Life -

I guess I feel like winning is a great motivator for kids and life long lesson for future adults - hear me out here - it‘s Not All About Winning. IF you have a desire to win, then, don't you have a desire to train? If you have a desire to train, then, don't you have a desire to learn? If you have a desire to learn, then don't you have a desire to develop? AND finally, if you have a desire to develop, then don't you have a desire to succeed.. And Finally Again , if you have a desire to succeed, don‘t you have a desire to risk and if you have a desire to risk don‘t you embrace uncertainty? It's a big endless loop - they all interconnect - success breeds, encourages self confidence, self conceptualization, understanding, risk, uncertainty, balance and unbalance, teamwork.....etc. etc.

It is not exclusive to Legends, it's a midwest WAY OF LIFE..in all sports and has been for hundreds of years - welcome to Kansas my friend - we got it going on! Fortitude, Passion, Expression, Hard Work & Success - Bottom line - Values.




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#39170 - 12/01/07 09:22 PM Re: Soccer as a Vehicle for Learning Life Lessons [Re: Skeech]
AndyBarney Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 06/14/06
Posts: 1688
I truly believe that the game can teach good and bad.

Unfortunately the traditional approach teaches as many bad life lessons as good.

Try picking any component of character and throw it at me. Pick any element that you like. You can skew it as much as you want to try to show that the traditional approach is better than the curriculum in my book.

I firmly believe that even if you choose the part of the game that most supports the traditional method of coaching I will be able to put up a good argument why, in the long run, the Legends way is better for developing lifelong positive characteristics.

\:\) Andy

PS: My billionth word. My shortest post.

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#39171 - 12/01/07 10:19 PM Re: Soccer as a Vehicle for Learning Life Lessons [Re: AndyBarney]
PLEASE Offline
journeyman

Registered: 02/23/06
Posts: 83
Loc: LALA Land
Let's say that we all concede that the legends approach outlined by you time after time on this forum is the best way to train player, a big concession on my part. Tell us which of the current coaches in the club coach their teams in the manor you promote?

I've watched some of them and spoken to a couple. They do some of what you promote but not even close to what you claim they do. How 'bout you name a coach and an age group and we'll let the people on this forum tell you about their experience playing against the teams that he/she coaches.

Please don't come back with, 'But they do more of what I believe than other coaches.' If you're selling the people of this community on your approach, shouldn't your coaches actually coach it? Otherwise it seems like a bait and switch to me; come for the philosophy and stay to pay the fees.

PLEASE! There are a number of coaches around town that teach their kids moves and encourage them to use them in games every bit as much (or more) than the current crop of legends coaches.

The approach you promote has now become a hypothetical. There aren't any coaches and teams that you can point to and say, 'There, that's how it should be done.' If there is, tell us who it is and I'll bet that someone can give a first hand account of playing the team.

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#39172 - 12/01/07 11:16 PM Re: Soccer as a Vehicle for Learning Life Lessons [Re: PLEASE]
me_me_me
Unregistered


After reading about the Legends approach in nausiating detail, I can assure all reading that my kids will never,ever wear a Legends uniform. I have seen my share of egotistical maniacs, but you, sir, are right up there. I am also going to recommend to my teams to not participate in the tournaments sponsored by your company. If you don't get it from the posts in the forum, then maybe a hit to your pocketbook will jar you. It is time that all need to boycott tournaments sponsored by this person and his company.

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#39175 - 12/02/07 01:09 AM Re: Soccer as a Vehicle for Learning Life Lessons [Re: Anonymous]
cornerkick Offline
newbie

Registered: 12/09/06
Posts: 48
My goodness, Mr. unregistered me_me_me, you need to take a chill pill. If you don't want to participate in the Legends tournaments, great, take your kids elsewhere. Andy is neither egotistical, nor a maniac. A lot of us disagree with him, but we don't get personal with our comments when he gets on one of his verbose, rambling statements about his methods. Lighten up and breath in and out a few times. This is simply a forum to exchange ideas, not call people names or affect their way of making a living. Andy has made a positive difference in the way many kids play soccer and the way they think about themselves. I don't have kids playing for the Legends, but I have watched Andy coach and have never heard an unkind word come out of his mouth. He is positive, motivating, and thoroughly focused on how the kids play and how they think of themselves.

I can see boycotting his business if he was doing harm to kids or ripping people off. But that is not the case. He tells you very clearly what his methods are right up front. If you don't want to buy his methods, fine, go somewhere else. But a lot of people do and are very happy about it.

So, before you make another one of your drive by, unregistered slams, think before you type and add some positive value to the forum.

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#39176 - 12/02/07 06:23 AM Re: Soccer as a Vehicle for Learning Life Lessons [Re: cornerkick]
AndyBarney Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 06/14/06
Posts: 1688
I make no apology for trying to change things for the better. If someone decides to "boycott" our club because I try to better the game that is their serious problem.

Any coach, Legends or otherwise, will differ somewhat.

However, as a group our coaches will focus more on creative indiviudal skill and its use in the game for much longer than traditionally the case.

Children should not be subjected to some of the things we take for granted in team sports. Children should not "sit the bench", be taught to kick the ball out of play, be cut from their club (Streaming is educationally essential where the child is struggling), be pigeonholed into one position etc.

The list of child abuses, accepted by otherwise good parents, in our team sports culture is very long and ugly.

I'm working on a second book, "Legends For Life". This is about how an enlightened approach develops all of life's positive characteristics.

Locally there are coaches that are excellent, somewhat good, average, poor or frankly disgusting in their emphasis.

My objective here is to educate open-minded parents to recognize the differences and take their children to the good coaches. It is also to get misguided coaches to adopt less damaging methods.

I fully realize that many coaches I perceive to be doing the wrong things read this forum. To these powerful individuals I would like to point out, (and others from my past coaching life in the community will attest to this), that I used to follow tradition and used every abusive method of coaching that I now abhor, to win games.

Yes, I am the reformed child abuser and I live with the guilt of taking kids hundreds of miles to tournaments and not playing them much in my quest to win. I live with the guilt of having encouraged my players to foul to win. I have wrongly kept players in one position for years because I needed their specialist skills in that role to get the win and build my own ego. The list of my own weaknesses and ignorance is long and humbling.

I long ago abandoned the selfish way (Isn't that interesting for someone who encourages great individual skill). It is now all about each one of my club players not me.

I want every player to leave my club relatively stronger in every department of character than before they joined.

The only way I have been able to guarantee this is make each player phenomenally skillful first. After the skills have been taught we put the skill under ever increasing pressure so that the creativity is richly entwined with a great work-ethic, quick intelligence and excellent physiology.

\:\) Andy


Edited by AndyBarney (12/02/07 07:54 AM)

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